maintaining the mirrors document is actually very important since the ASF has to pay for bandwidth. so, infrequent maintenance of this document could be seem as a (possible) symptom of a larger malaise. if the xml federation is to succeed as a central source of information, it's important that this information is kept fresh.
i (do a lot of the maintenance of the website over in jakartaland and) have raised some similar concerns before. however, berin has said that his plan is to address these issues once the transition from project to federation has been completed. this sounds like a good plan to me, so my suggestion is everyone keep's their powder dry till then.
- robert
On 11 Jul 2004, at 23:42, Peter B. West wrote:
Tetsuya,
I share a number of your concerns about the fragmentation that is being introduced by the move to TLPs. I'm not sure what you are suggesting we do about it, apart from your specific concern about the updating of http://xml.apache.org/mirrors.cgi.
Peter
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:Glenn Mazza Wrote:AuEither it's rarely updated (obviously), or only updated by teams that remember it. Usually, one goes to the precise web page (Xerces, Xalan, FOP, etc.) for the SW wanted and follows the instructions from there."Chicken and Egg" relation.FOP, at least, doesn't appear to be getting many complaints about this.Woooo ... and how do would you think to updateI mean, how can we get *new* binaries and sources of xml.apache.org products? Due to the lack of the comprehension of the updates @ mirrors.html?Many/Most of XML Apache's projects are becoming TLP's on their own. We're perhaps not as closely tied together as the Jakarta teams. Best to just go to the web page of the specific product you wish to download.
http://xml.apache.org/mirrors.cgi
after most of the projects (subs) move up into TLPs?
Who would be responsible for it to update mirrors.cgi?
Who would be responsible for the announcement of "APACHE XML RELATED -- federated -- projects" ?
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Why federated? common -- infrastructure -- for xml team??
Why do not you want to put the good conditions for the
* ex-xml.apache.org -ed * projects?
#Of course I will, if i have a sufficient karma to do
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Perhaps this can be discussed at the "proposal of ferderative networks"
in xml.apache.org land, also.
-- Peter B. West <http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html>
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