On Nov 1, 2004, at 1:11 PM, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Clay Leeds wrote:
When the Apache Forrest project changed to a new domain, they also changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, with this change comes (IMHO) a significant problem for browsers of the archives: forrest-dev@ mail is a completely separate mailing list (with a separate interface). The problem is that forrest-dev was used for *all* dev *&* user mailing list traffic, so a search in the 'current' mailing lists' archives does not include content in forrest-dev (that's a separate search).

Which archives are you looking at?

First let me say, that I have not mentioned this to the Forrest people nor do I speak for them. I just want to ensure that a problem doesn't occur.


If you look on Forrest's Mailing List page[1], you'll see three Mailing Lists:
- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The user@ list has an Eyebrowse link and the dev@ list has Eyebrowse *&* MARC links.

I was looking at [EMAIL PROTECTED], which only goes back to May 2004.

The eyebrowse archives include the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and go back to November 2002.

http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList? [EMAIL PROTECTED]&by=date&from=2002-05-01&to=2002-05 -31&first=1&count=636

True, however [EMAIL PROTECTED] was the only list between May 2002 & May 2004, and was used for 'user@' as well as 'dev@' questions. Hence, a search on user@ lists (where a user would expect to find answers) won't return any 'hits' before May 2004. In order to search pre-May 2004 'user' archives, one must search the [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] lists.


Perhaps it makes sense to include the forrest-dev posts in the 'index' for [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

NOTE: I'm not asking for this (I don't think it's my place to do so). I'm just using this as an example of something I want to be careful of WRT setting up xmlgraphics Mailing Lists & Archives.

For Eyebrowse, when moving a list name, we generally set up a new archive under the new list name and index all the old messages into the new archive.

Cheers,
        Berin

BTW, I hadn't noticed that the dev@ list actually includes all posts back to 2002 (thanks for pointing that out!), as I'd been under the impression one still had to use MARC[4] for that old content. The first place I was searching was user@ Eyebrowse, and the content isn't there, so I'd switch to MARC for older stuff.


BTW, the MARC link was down when I checked (it's back up now--must've been a glitch).

In any case, my goal is to ensure that when someone searches the fop-user archives, they get all the USER content. When someone searches fop-dev, they get all the DEV content.

[1] Forrest Mailing Lists
http://forrest.apache.org/mail-lists.html
[2] Eyebrowse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://issues.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=260
[3] Eyebrowse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://issues.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=259
[4] MARC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev

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