+1 for dropping support for 1.3 1.5 has a better memory model but as far as I know, this is part of the JVM, rather than depending on the compiler, i.e. merely running under 1.5 will help (please correct me if I'm wrong!). Switching to 1.5 involves a lot of work initially (generics, annotations) before one can take full advantage of all its benefits.
So I would be inclined to do at least one release which requires 1.4, and then look again at 1.5. On 8 July 2010 19:27, Dave Brosius <dbros...@baybroadband.net> wrote: > the end of life on 1.4 was fall 2008! > > +1 in going to 1.5 directly > > Michael Glavassevich <mrgla...@ca.ibm.com> wrote: > >> >>Hi Jake, >> >>"Jacob Kjome" <h...@visi.com> wrote on 07/08/2010 12:58:49 PM: >> >>> I have a library I develop (XMLC [1]) that depends on JDK1.3 and also >>depends >>> on Xerces. That said, part of the reason of depending on JDK1.3 is >>> to stay in >>> line with the Xerces dependency on JDK1.3. The other reason is >>thatJDK1.3 is >>> free and clear of any built-in XML APIs, which allows me to include >>exactly >>> the JAXP library of my choice (xml-apis.jar) without worry of >>compile-time >>> binding to odd invalid APIs included in 1.4 (such as some stuff meant for >>the >>> HTML2 API that got placed in the HTML1 API DOM package namespace). But >>if >>> Xerces decides to move to a later version of Java, then I will probably >>move >>> XMLC right along with it. >>> >>> That said, I would think that if Xerces were going to bother making a >>move at >>> all it would move to JDK1.5 rather than bother with 1.4. Xerces 2.10 is >>> always there for 1.3 and 1.4 codebases, which should all be well into >>> maintenance mode meaning few, if any, library changes. >> >>It's often not a choice but a constraint of the environment the developer >>is working in, having to write a new application on top of a product stack >>which is stuck on one of these earlier JDK releases. JDK 1.4 isn't dead >>yet; still in service for some vendors, including Oracle/Sun if you're a >>business willing to pay for the support. Not aware of any vendors >>supporting JDK 1.3 anymore though. >> >>> Moving to 1.5 would >>> allow Xerces to take advantage of all the new language constructs added >>in >>> 1.5, as well as APIs added in 1.5 (e.g., StringBuilder -vs- >>StringBuffer). >> >>Right. We all talked about the benefits of moving up even higher to Java 5 >>and 6 before, but have been quite conservative about upgrading because of >>where we are in the food chain. >> >>> So, +1 for changing JDK dependency in general, but I would prefer a move >>> straight to JDK1.5+ skipping JDK1.4 support. This also seems to be >>> what a lot >>> of Apache commons libraries are doing, so it's certainly not >>unprecedented. >>> >>> [1] http://forge.ow2.org/projects/xmlc/ >>> >>> >>> Jake >>> >>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 11:36:07 -0400 >>> Michael Glavassevich <mrgla...@ca.ibm.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > (including general@xml.apache.org on the cc list to hopefully reach a >>wider >>> > audience) >>> > >>> > We're talking again on the Xerces j-dev mailing list about dropping >>support >>> > for JDK 1.3. The reason being that current builds of the XPath 2.0 >>> > processor (Eclipse PsychoPath) used by the XML Schema 1.1 >>implementation >>> > require JDK 1.4. While we do have a one-off PsychoPath jar that was >>built >>> > with JDK 1.3 some time ago, in order to pick up recent bug fixes in >>this >>> > library we need to refresh it with the JDK 1.4 version. This would only >>> > impact the XML Schema 1.1 enabled release for now but at some point in >>the >>> > future when XML Schema 1.1 becomes stable (both spec and impl) this >>would >>> > get merged into the main line. >>> > >>> > Given the age of JDK 1.3 and that it's generally out of service my >>> > intuition is that this upgrade would probably be okay but wanted to >>check >>> > with users on their needs. Is there anyone out there still using >>Xerces-J >>> > with JDK 1.3? If you are, how long into the future will you continue to >>do >>> > so, and would you be willing to migrate to JDK 1.4 (or higher) to be >>able >>> > to use XML Schema 1.1? >>> > >>> > Thanks. >>> > >>> > Michael Glavassevich >>> > XML Parser Development >>> > IBM Toronto Lab >>> > E-mail: mrgla...@ca.ibm.com >>> > E-mail: mrgla...@apache.org >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: j-users-unsubscr...@xerces.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: j-users-h...@xerces.apache.org >> >>Thanks. >> >>Michael Glavassevich >>XML Parser Development >>IBM Toronto Lab >>E-mail: mrgla...@ca.ibm.com >>E-mail: mrgla...@apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@xml.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@xml.apache.org
