Would an ABI-compatible Android DDE be a good option? On Jul 29, 2015 4:43 AM, "Thotheolh Tay" <twzger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The situation of Open Source and Close Source code could be handled if > Genode continue to work on the Open Source bits and Qualcomm or close > source vendors work on the Close Source bits. > > The close source vendors can work with Genode to have an Open Source > plugin api that is generic enough (note that Genode already has API) and > request generic support for the API which their close source drivers can > access. This way Genode and its API will always be Open Source which is > permissible to other vendors without needing to NDA the Genode people. > > For the vendors interested, please read the Genode API and the Genode PDF > guide to create your Close/Open Source bridge between Genode and your > hardware and firmware layers. > On 29 Jul 2015 11:24, "Madhu (Macaque Labs)" <ma...@macaque.in> wrote: > >> I have recently become an advisor to a mobile handset OEM. They are >> willing to support >> genode efforts and since they are about a USD 1B in revenue, do have some >> clout with >> the OEMs (Mediatek and Qualcomm). >> >> Qualcomm is also willing to support us directly but the problem is that >> while they are willing to >> release all data to support genode, it is under NDA. So cannot open >> source it. >> I guess the next best option is to have a closed binary module. Kind of >> what >> Nvidia did with its graphics drivers. Not a great option but better than >> nothing. >> I have been debating this >> with Qualcomm for a year now ! The good news is that OEM is willing to >> sell >> Genode based phones (with Android virtualized on top). >> >> To overcome this issue, we at IIT-Madras have just finished development >> of a Freescale i.MX6 >> based tablet. This is currently under testing (first 5 protos have come). >> I hope to >> start giving out samples (to be procured directly from vendor, we do not >> charge any royalties >> or file any patents) >> in about 3-4 months. Cost will be around 350-400 USD (10 in IP screen, >> dual core, weighs about 480-520 g) >> This is a fully open system system. Next year we will replace the Cortex >> A9 with the >> i.MX8 (Cortex A-53). Will not be state of art but definitely a more than >> adequate tablet. >> Cortex A9 does not support full HW virtualization. >> The PCB comes with tamper detect signals brought out but case >> unfortunately has no >> reed switches yet, will have to do some mechanical work later. Secure, >> high assurance boot is >> fully enabled. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Sebastian Sumpf < >> sebastian.su...@genode-labs.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Ben, >>> >>> On 07/27/2015 05:42 PM, Nobody III wrote: >>> > One possible target for Genode, aside from PCs and development boards, >>> > would be smartphones. The security measures tend to be "don't install >>> > this app if you don't want to give it these permissions." With Genode, >>> > this problem is easy to fix. Also, security exploits would be a lot >>> > harder. It seems to make sense to make a mobile operating system with >>> > Genode. We could use Cyanogenmod and/or Android code for app and >>> > hardware support. I have an old working android phone that I would be >>> > happy to use to test this, and will probably have another available >>> > within a few weeks. Note that there are no official Cyanogenmod ports >>> > for either device, but there might be an unofficial port for one of >>> them. >>> >>> We already did this exemplary for Exynos 5250, which is the Samsung >>> Galaxy S4 platform. Unfortunately, these platforms or SoCs are not very >>> well documented, if at all (e.g., Snapdragon). With the only well >>> documented SoC (Texas Instrument's OMAP) gone, smartphone platforms have >>> become really really hard to deploy without having manufacturer support. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Sebastian >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sebastian Sumpf >>> Genode Labs >>> >>> http://www.genode-labs.com · http://genode.org >>> >>> Genode Labs GmbH · Amtsgericht Dresden · HRB 28424 · Sitz Dresden >>> Geschäftsführer: Dr.-Ing. Norman Feske, Christian Helmuth >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> genode-main mailing list >>> genode-main@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/genode-main >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Madhu >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> genode-main mailing list >> genode-main@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/genode-main >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > genode-main mailing list > genode-main@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/genode-main > >
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