Hi, Jennifer,

Thanks a lot. Could you tell me the exact format of BED6 and BED12? I only
have 4 columns "contig, start, end, name" for the TFBS regions, and I
thought that means BED4.

Best,
Wei
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Jennifer Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Wei,
>
> The commands look right. To do some detective work, there are two things
> you could look in to, as a sanity check:
>
> 1) how much coverage are you getting between the genomes in the over.chain
> file? Many BLAT hits could be compressed into not-so-many chains. If you add
> up the coverage in the "to" database and "from" database, that might tell
> you something (if it is low for either one, then the low rate of liftOver
> would makes sense).
>
> 2) how long are the query regions in your "from" SB_Ste12_bind4.bed file?
> Have you tried to use shorter genomic regions representing a gene's
> footprint (BED6) or just the regions for exons from a particular transcript
> (BED12)? If you take those same regions - and run a BLAT against the "to"
> genome, are you able to capture hits that are not found with liftOver? Or do
> you find more that meet or exceed the original BLAT criteria? A few cases of
> each would be best.
>
> These kinds of tests can probably help you figure out where the problem is.
>
> I am also working on getting some feedback for the chain/net part of your
> process to see if there are some suggestions to offer.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Jennifer
>
> ---------------------------------
> Jennifer Jackson
> UCSC Genome Informatics Group
> http://genome.ucsc.edu/
>
> On 5/3/10 11:52 AM, Wei Zheng wrote:
>
>> Hi, Jennifer,
>>
>> I get BLAT matches, but few liftOver matches (19 out of 256 regions).
>> Below are the code I used.
>>
>> cd /mnt/shared/GenomeLift/bayanus
>> #mkdir lift net psl chainRaw over bedOver
>> for i in {1..16} M; do faSplit -lift=lift/chr$i.lft size
>> ../sacCer1/chr$i.fa -oneFile 3000 /scratch/split/chr$i; done
>> for i in {1..16} M; do blat contig.fasta /scratch/split/chr$i.fa
>> raw/Sb_Sc_chr${i}.psl -tileSize=11 -minScore=100 -minIdentity=80
>> -fastMap; done
>> cd raw; for i in {1..16} M; do liftUp -pslQ ../psl/chr$i.psl
>> ../lift/chr$i.lft warn Sb_Sc_chr${i}.psl; done
>> #faToTwoBit contig.fasta Sb_contig.2bit
>> cd ..;
>> for i in {1..16} M; do axtChain -linearGap=medium -psl psl/chr${i}.psl
>> Sb_contig.2bit ../sacCer1/chr${i}.2bit  chainRaw/Sb2Sc_chr${i}.chain; done
>> chainMergeSort chainRaw/*.chain | chainSplit chain stdin
>> cd chain; for i in *.chain; do chainNet $i ../contig.sizes
>> ../../sacCer1/chrom.sizes ../net/${i}.net /dev/null;  done
>> for i in *.chain; do netChainSubset ../net/$i.net <http://i.net> $i
>>
>> ../over/$i; done
>> cat ../over/*.chain >../bedOver/over.chain
>> cd ..;
>> liftOver -minMatch=0.1  -multiple SB_Ste12_bind4.bed bedOver/over.chain
>> SB2SC_Ste12_bind.bed SB2SC_nomatch.txt
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Jennifer Jackson <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>  > Hello Wei,
>>  >
>>  > To clarify, do you not have BLAT matches between the two species or
>> do you
>>  > have the matches, but it is liftOver that not mapping data? If you
>> don't
>>  > know, try tweaking liftOver a bit first.
>>  >
>>  > liftOver parameters:
>>  > - use BED as an input (if you were using positional format)
>>  > - use -multiple, use -minMatch 0.1
>>  > - maybe add in a -minSizeQ 300 (or so) to keep short fragment out (that
>>  > multiple will capture). Or leave out -minSizeQ, review, then add it
>> back in
>>  > using a threshold you set based on what type of output you desire.
>>  >
>>  > Try the liftOver changes and let us know if this does not solve the
>> problem.
>>  > If it doesn't, send back details for the processing you (your exact
>>  > parameters based on the processes from the document) and we can provide
>>  > feedback for loosening up the match criteria.
>>  >
>>  > Thanks,
>>  > Jennifer
>>  >
>>  > ---------------------------------
>>  > Jennifer Jackson
>>  > UCSC Genome Informatics Group
>>  > http://genome.ucsc.edu/
>>  >
>>  > On 5/3/10 10:52 AM, Wei Zheng wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >> Hello,
>>  >>
>>  >> I was trying to generate over.chain from S. bayanus to S. cerevisiae
>>  >> and perform liftOver to map TFBS of S.bayanus to S. cerevisiae
>>  >> coordinates, using the instructions on
>>  >> 
>> http://hgwdev.cse.ucsc.edu/~kent/src/unzipped/hg/doc/liftOver.txt<http://hgwdev.cse.ucsc.edu/%7Ekent/src/unzipped/hg/doc/liftOver.txt>
>> .
>>  >> However I can only get less than 10% of my TFBS lifted, the others are
>>  >> always non-matched.
>>  >>
>>  >> I wonder whether you could point out some key parameters in blat,
>>  >> axtChain, and liftOver steps for such closely related yeast species.
>>  >> The assembly I used was sacCer1 (16 chromosomes downloaded from UCSC)
>>  >> for S. cerevisiae and 1098 contigs (downloaded from SGD, reported in
>>  >> Kellis 2003) for S. bayanus.
>>  >>
>>  >> Thank you very much!
>>  >>
>>  >> Wei
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