Hello Stefanie,

Presumably the 6000 genes you found were those for which 
cdsStart=cdsEnd. These are noncoding entries but not specifically those 
subsets you mention. You can find out more about how the UCSC genes set 
is created on the UCSC genes description page:

http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgGene?hgg_do_kgMethod=1

Another way to locate noncoding genes would be to consult the kgTxInfo 
table.  This table is what is used for display of the "Gene Model 
Information" that is shown near the bottom of the page when you click on 
a UCSC Gene.  You can find out more about it here:

http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgGene?hgg_do_txInfoDescription=1

If you are interested in tRNA/snoRNA/mirRNA entries you may find one of 
these tracks useful:

RNA Genes:
http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTrackUi?&c=chrX&g=rnaGene

sno/miRNA:
http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTrackUi?&c=chrX&g=wgRna

tRNA Genes:
http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTrackUi?&c=chrX&g=tRNAs


Regards,

Pauline Fujita
UCSC Genome Bioinformatics Group
http://genome.ucsc.edu

On 10/6/10 9:15 AM, Stefanie Gerstberger wrote:
> Hi,
> I was checking the UCSC known gene files for tRNA/snoRNA/mirRNA and could not 
> find any. Is it correct that the UCSC known genes contains only mRNA 
> transcripts? There is a discrepancy of ~27000 total canonical UCSC genes and 
> ~21000 UCSC protein coding genes. Are the missing 6000 genes genes which have 
> lengths and characteristics of mRNAs/long noncoding RNAs but have not been 
> shown 
> to be expressed as protein?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Stefanie
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> Cornell University, 
> Rockefeller University, 
> Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center
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