On 19-04-2008 11:35:24 -0500, Jeremy wrote: > Fabian Groffen wrote: > <snip> >> There is one thing that I don't quite like: >> switching from arch to ~arch means after `emerge -e system` nearly any >> system package needs to be updated, that is quite a shame > > This has to be done with a normal gentoo installation anyway. I think it is > a small concern if any at all!
Normal Gentoo installations have the intention to remain arch, not to be switched to ~arch. Besides they start stage 3, so they don't compile as much as we do. >> Questioni is now how are we going to implement this, if we all agree >> this is the way to go? Do we agree in the first place? > > Will it be more or less work for the prefix devs? If we implement this More work, for sure. But the payoff hopefully is less work on debugging/checking bootstrap failures. > design but it is more work to do...is it really beneficial? will it > actually get done? Also, I think that the docs will stay more current which The system set is limited, and I expect stable keyword changes there to be very rare. That also means the bootstrap image has to change only every once in a while. Probably to bump the bootstrapped Portage version. > means less work there. We need to define a process to update stable > keywords. Maybe we can follow gentoo-x86 automagically on that one..but if Out of the question. What's stable for gentoo-x86 sometimes breaks for us. We simply have much more diversity, so it'll be more a one time job to set the stable keywords, do a check by bootstrapping and leaving it that way. > we do, then the docs will get out of date again, because the process hasn't > really changed. If system packages go stable automatically that is the same > as what we have now. Yes, introducing stable keywords means a lot of changes to docs and scripts because suddenly stable keywords are allowed and supposed to be retained. > The proposal needs some serious thought. However, I think it has potential > and I like it. An alternative would be a bootstrap image maintained as a "branch", but I don't know how to get people upgraded easily from there. Probably rsync would be a way out there too... but *sigh* we don't have rsync. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [email protected] mailing list
