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On Thu, October 20, 2005 8:06 pm, Sean wrote:
> So I am asking some Gentoo amd64 users, are you happy with the version
> or would you have gained more with i386?
> Do most applications work on amd64 or are there some important ones
> missing?
>

Well, there is no question that more packages will work correctly and will
be stable on x86 than amd64.  Especially huge packages like openoffice,
and java also works much better on x86 (it depends on the app, some work
better than others, and some VMs are more stable with handle different
apps).

On the other hand, in real life the differences in usability are fairly
small.  The main deficiencies in amd64 are huge apps like openoffice that
haven't been ported, and small obscure apps that nobody has bothered to
get working.  Obviously the x86 platform benefits from most developers
targetting it natively.

Still, I'm very happy with amd64.  The performance should be significantly
improved, and you benefit from features like NX and large memory support.
I'm a bit of a tinkerer as well, so the occassional breakdown doesn't
bother me as long as core apps are stable (such as samba/apache/etc -
gotta keep the wife acceptance factor high and if the windows domain goes
down it is an issue).

If you're running a commercial server I wouldn't go anywhere near amd64
unless it is just running a small set of core apps (like apache) and you
expect to benefit from the improved performance.  On the other hand, if
you're deploying a non-saturated general-purpose server you really should
be going with something more stable (probably debian).

Keep in mind that you can run x86 in a chroot just fine, and that is
reasonably convenient for anything other than servers/daemons since they
aren't running out of /etc/init.d.

I'm guessing that if you're adventurous enough to be running gentoo in the
first place you'll be fairly happy with amd64.  There are also lots of
ways to contribute if you run amd64.  Just about all package developers
who are running on x86 are happy to receive feedback from amd64 users,
especially if you suggest patches (not that I personnally excel at this).
In this way even a somewhat novice programmer can contribute to major
projects in ways that some of the more senior developers cannot by virtue
of having a different platform to test on.  I think you'll also find that
amd64 has one of the largest groups of dedicated developers in gentoo, and
the amd64 herd is probably larger than any comparable group on almost any
distro...

So, overall I'm very happy with amd64, even if it does mean fixing the
occassional bug now and then.

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