Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below, on  Sun, 18 May 2008 18:48:38 +0000:

> but
> now i got an issue with db-4.6.21 which prevents klibido from starting.

db upgrades database format frequently, I believe with every update tho 
it might be only minor versions (4.5, 4.6, etc).  The formats are 
incompatible with each other.  Therefore, anything built on db will need 
rebuilt to use the new format when you upgrade db, and all the info 
accumulated in the previous db format will die.

For something like klibido, killing the old db isn't a big deal.  
However, klibido isn't widely used enough to make it a priority updating 
its ebuild when necessary to work with new db versions, so you must 
sometimes do so by hand.  IIRC, it wasn't too difficult last time I did 
it, but it did take a bit of time.

That's one of the reasons I eventually switched back to pan for binaries 
here, after it got automatic multiserver ability with the 0.9x+ rewrite.  
I had been using pan for text and binaries for some time and am in fact a 
senior regular on the pan lists/newsgroups (groups as seen thru gmane's 
list2news gateway, which is how I follow them, using pan, of course), 
then switched to klibido for binaries when it came out as pre-rewrite pan 
didn't handle multiple servers as well.  However, due to the problems 
keeping klibido and db in sync, and the fact that I /have/ used pan so 
long and am relatively comfortable with it, /and/ the fact that I was 
already using it for text groups, it was just easier to switch back to 
using it for binaries as well, than to worry about keeping klibido 
running.

The only problem is that as a normally KDE user, pan is my only major gtk 
using app.  If I weren't using pan, I could probably ditch gtk entirely.  
However, it works better for me than knode for text so I had it and gtk 
on the system as it was, and using it for binaries too was easier than 
keeping up with klibido/db, tho it would have been the reverse if I 
wasn't already using pan for text.

So anyway, if you've not tried it and already have gtk merged for other 
reasons anyway, consider pan for both text and binaries.  Pan doesn't 
have the nice eye candy of klibido, but because it does text and text 
posting too, it's actually more functional.

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