Philip Webb posted on Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:55:33 -0400 as excerpted: > I sent in a msg last week re failure of kdelibs-3.5.10-r6 to compile. > Sadly, no-one has responded. > > No complaint to anyone, but is the Kde-Sunset overlay still supported ? > If no-one remains interested in it, I can drop it & move on ; > if someone who knows re it is still around, can they advise ? > Without Kdelibs KDE is unusable.
It would be nice if a gentoo dev would take up trinity and get it in the tree, or at least in kde sunset. But I've seen nary a hint of that. I won't try to get anyone off of kde-sunset as I respect the reasons they are still on it. However, if someone is ready to give up on it and move on, I do know a couple of alternatives I can suggest, and offer my help as I can. Here, I'm running kde4, but with USE=-semantic-desktop, and a bunch of other related flags (virtuoso, rasqual, redland...) turned off. It does mean avoiding anything kdepim related, including kmail, since that brings in akonadi, which ultimately forces semantic-desktop back on, but there are alternatives to kmail. Here, I'm running (gtk-based) claws-mail for both mail and feeds (replacing akregator). For those running kde3's amorok, clemintine is the alternative, tho I switched to something much different, mpd with various frontends, here. Even with multiple frontends, mpd's still way lighter on resources. But it doesn't have the nice database setup of amarok/clemintine. I didn't need or use that anyway, so I was fine with mpd, but many will need it and for them clemintine is the better choice. I had switched to kde4 long before I turned off semantic-desktop, etc, so I can't give a direct comparison of kde3 to kde4 without semantic- desktop. What I CAN say, however, is that turning off semantic-desktop at build-time made kde4 enough faster it was like an MS platform person discovering how many resources the malware had been taking. Additionally, while I had stated that kde4 finally matured enough to replace kde 3.5.10 with 4.5.4+, and that 4.5 was what really /should/ have been numbered 4.0, only after I turned off semantic desktop (basically, at my 4.6 to 4.7 upgrade), was I ready to say that kde4 had now not only /matched/ kde3 for me (that was with 4.5), but with semantic- desktop turned off, it now /exceeded/ kde 3.5.10 for me. It should thus be obvious that I'm quite happy with (now) kde 4.9, AS LONG AS USE=-semantic-desktop. I'd be interested in someone that has stayed with kde3 via kde-sunset, now trying kde4, with semantic-desktop turned off, to see what their real opinion is. And, I can help with it, providing hints, etc, if/when needed. Either here or on the kde-linux or kde-general lists. The other alternative I've seen reviewed is the qt4 based razorqt desktop. This would most obviously and directly replace the plasma- desktop component of kde4, altho the reviews I've seen have been on using razorqt on its own. On its own, it looks to be a qt-based desktop comparable to one of the light gtk-based desktops such as lxde or xfce. IMO, running a razorqt desktop with individual kde4 apps should be a good mix. Were I doing it I'd probably try for what amounted to a kde4 desktop with plasma-desktop replaced with razorqt, as kde4 is componentized enough that should work, in theory anyway. However, I've not seen any reviews of anyone trying to pull that off, nor have I actually tried it myself as I'm actually quite happy with plasma-desktop now that it has had some time to mature. Again, I'd be quite interested in seeing someone now on kde-sunset try razorqt, presumably with a few individual kde4 apps. Again, I'd help them where I could, but obviously since I've not tried razorqt myself, I'd be limited to helping more on the kde4 side. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
