I'm the last person who would want infos and help on emerge removed but that sounds like too much baby sitting. I like Gentoo for not enabling the server daemon by default after emerge. That's the "protection" i expect and like. But i dislike when my distribution tries to be smarter than the user. If you want to warn the user then a ewarn after emerge has to be enough becauee everything else annoys too much.
And telnet isn't bad by default. I use the client for various tests and have it installed on all my machines because sometimes it's just simpler than netcat magic etc. On Sat, Dec 27, 2003 at 09:55:02PM -0500, Allen Parker wrote: > I must pipe up on this one. When a user asks for "telnet" they're usually > not aware of the security risks involved. (kinda makes me wonder why it's > installed by default on Debian :-\) Probably the best way to handle this is > to create a virtual/telnet and add a default package that when uninstalled > displays a basic readme saying telnet isn't secure and why, asks the user if > they still want to do it, and THEN after they've confirmed that they do in > fact want telnet, allow them to emerge whichever telnet they choose. > > So, to re-state because I'm not even sure what I said up there: > Create package block-telnet that does as it's name implies, blocks the > virtual/telnet package so that no other telnetd/telnet client may be emerged > without removing it first. > Setup block-telnet to install something like /usr/share/doc/telnet-readme > (the contents of the same thing you read when you remove block-telnet) and > upon unmerge fire off a simple shell script that less's the same file > (hidden) that is telnet-readme with a yes/no choice saying are you sure you > wish to remove me? > Add block-telnet -> virtual/telnet as a virtual/telnet blocker by default > for all arch/stage/devel profiles under system instead of world and make it > a default package (like nano) for Gentoo 2004. > > It honestly seems to me that this would probably take any dev minutes to set > the virtual up this way and it would also allow very fast, short answers in > regards to getting questions on telnet: > > Eg: > User: how do I install telnet? > Dev: emerge unmerge block-telnet ... and read what it says. > User: thanks for your help! > > That's my 2/100ths of a monetary unit. > Allen Parker > > PS: when used in this manner, it's hardly cruft. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
