On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 08:21, Jan Schubert wrote: > Jon Portnoy wrote: > > >And millions of bug reports from users who don't realize they shouldn't > >report bugs to us on unofficial, unsupported ebuilds, plus users who > >don't realize Gentoo isn't responsible for any breakage, viruses, or > >whatever else propogated by an unofficial tree. > > > > > Jon, what John meant is maybe something like to just allow "qualified" > non devs to support work in the unofficial tree. I'm quite sure that > these non devs feel very responsible for their work. There might be some > BugReports in the beginning, but they will be handled by the responsible > non dev. Maybe some of these non devs will become a dev in the future or > where asked to become a dev in the past but just don't have the time for > such a responsible job (personally this is half of the true for me - the > other half is that i'm feeling that i'm still in the progress of learning). > > On the other side i believe, that users accessing this unofficial tree > know what they are doing, so it should'nt reflect the official devs that > much. In my understanding this "feature" is requested by people which > are not that happy with the current situation (some of them are these > non devs we talking about). All of them are aware of the consequences. > This tree would be completely out of scope for "normal" users (they most > likely never get in touch with this unofficial tree).
You forget about the real problem that we face, which is not the state of the ebuilds that are used which are of an "unofficial" nature, but rather the bugs we receive and requests for help from users whom have used these ebuilds and wish to reverse the problems they have caused. It really boils down to one thing. No matter what, ebuilds which are not in the tree are not verified by the development team and WILL at some point cause the development team some grief in attempting to recover from them. Yes, there are a good many absolutely perfect ebuilds submitted by people every day which never make it into portage. I am still a very strong believer that posting information to the bug which the ebuild has been attached is a much better idea than having any form of "unofficial" tree anywhere. Of course, this isn't stopping anyone from having their own tree at all. After all, this is all about choice and freedom. You just can't expect us to give it any form of sanctioning, because it is simply more overhead that we cannot maintain. > Maybe all these mails are just a request for an "official" unofficial > tree!? The problem of lots of unsubmitted ebuilds in bugzilla has to be > adressed somehow. You should use the motiviatian and the added value > which these non devs would like to bring in. Don't offend them! > > Thx, > Jan > > PS: If someone of the non devs would ask me, i can say that i've found a > acceptable solution for my occasional activities: Just get a account for > any unofficial gentoo cvs tree and submitt your ebuilds there (and to > bugzilla also, of course). So you are able to maintain your ebuilds, get > familiar with repoman etc. and interessted people can use your ebuilds > by accessing this tree via PORTDIR_OVERLAY. > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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