On Thursday 20 January 2005 8:38 pm, Caleb Tennis wrote: > > I don't have any issue with Gentoo wanting to know names at all, but > > requiring > > ID proof of names for someone who will be *volunteering* is quite > > different. > > Sure, and if I *volunteer* to help with the local library booksale, > showing my ID isn't important.
Nope. Why would it be? > > When I'm *volunteering* on something that people use and has a greater > impact on the community at large, ID becomes more important. Identification does, maybe, but identification of abilities, not identification of name. > > Have you ever given blood? I *volunteer* my time doing it, and they > certainly ask a lot more intrusive things than just to see my ID. They ask for information that is neccesary to use your blood safely. If they ask for anything (besides stuff I tell anyone) besides that, I would refuse to have anything to do with them solely based on that. > > The point is, when you're an organization and you take donations and > volunteer time as part of the service you provide, you owe it to the > community you service to verify the quality of the products you provide - > part of that comes from the identity of those who provide them. But none of that comes from the arbitrary string (name) associated with them. > > > Since signing someone's key provides a trickle down effect to all of the > keys that they have signed a well, there needs to be some assuredness that > the potential script-kiddie 5 keysigns away from me wasn't loosely > verified just because someone knew his e-mail address. I would argue that this is more of a rationale for different signature types. "I know this key is used for honest representation." (what I consider key sigs to be right now), "I trust the person this key represents with some things of mine", and "I trust the person this key repesents with any access that I have." Just because I sign Mr. Green's key doesn't mean I am guaranteeing he won't kill Mrs. White with the candlestick. All I'm saying is that the particular Mr. Green I know uses this key for legitimate purposes and is not attempting to represent somebody else. On Thursday 20 January 2005 8:49 pm, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 20:08 +0000, Luke-Jr wrote: > > > How would you like it if everyone signed up for the list sent a reply > > > each time you sent a mail with this request? I'd wager you would turn > > > that crap off *real* quickly in that case. Hundreds of emails saying > > > "yes I read your worthless mail" can't be a good thing. > > > > Actually, I would probably procmail them... > > Then why the hell are you requesting them, You make too many assumptions. I would procmail them into a folder, not a trash. I am requesting them by default because they can be useful for people who don't reply to every email they receive, and I'm unaware of any mail program that has the ability to have a different default for mailing lists. > Linda? This is the last time I will reply to a message directed toward me under the name Linda. I do not recognize that as my name in any sense. -- Luke-Jr Developer, Utopios http://utopios.org/ -- [email protected] mailing list
