On Tuesday 13 September 2005 07:46 pm, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > Not really, because my opinion that devrel shouldn't be involved is not
> > automatically turned into reality (much to my regret). I'm trying to
> > supply evidence why this should stay between QA and infra.
> >
> >> at any rate, you're proposing giving the control to the QA team which
> >> has no guidelines or processes outlined, let alone the manpower.
> >> devrel has all of these.
> >
> > And devrel is the wrong group to handle it, so QA needs to come up with
> > some guidelines.
>
> I tend to agree with Donnie on this partially. Devrel's main focus isn't
> the QA of the tree, its dealing with developers.

exactly, which is what i said originally

QA flags developers as bad apples and tells devrel to punish them

> If QA has done all it can to help improve someone or deal with their
> problems, then devrel can take over it. Give the power to the right
> people so they can do the right kind of work and decisions.

i also noted this originally ... QA team tells dev what they've done wrong and 
to plzfixkthx.  if dev is unresponsive/continues to produce garbage, then QA 
team informs devrel to clean up said dev.
-mike
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