-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:32:47 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | What do you mean "they aren't tied to ebuilds"? I don't really > | understand what this feature should do then, it seems. Once again, > | what's wrong with reusing emerge --changelog mechanism for displaying > | this kind of information? > > We make changes that have scope other than ebuilds. > > | I'm not particularly happy with idea of emerge as a newsreader > | really, IMHO we should display relevant, vital upgrading information > | *when relevant*, not to inform users about upgrades that they are not > | interested in in the least. > > Which is what my proposed GLEP does, at least as far as we can > determine automatically. Yes, occasionally this will mean giving, say, > mysql 4.1 upgrade instructions to people who plan to use only mysql > 4.0, but then, if we didn't give them the news, most of them wouldn't > know that they don't want to upgrade. > > And it doesn't turn emerge into a news reader. All portage does is > deliver the news. How said news is read is a different issue. > > | And please, keep the thing simple so that I can be done in reasonable > | amount of time and does not follow the destiny of einfo/ewarn logging > | (3 years and counting). > > Of course. Hence why I'm proposing something easy and workable, and not > suggesting some magic new framework that will solve all existing > problems (including world peace). >
Just keep in mind that portage is supposed to be non-interactive and most users like it that way. (Although the countdown when cleaning out old packages kinda breaks that idea, but I digress.) So just make sure that the scheme doesn't involve forcing the user to notice anything during a 'normal' non-interactive emerge in order for it to be effective. Thats why I keep pushing having a nice GuideXML version in a central location like http://errata.g.o/ and just having emerge output a summary and a link (however/at what point/with what mechanism you decide to actually have portage output it). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDaq8U2QTTR4CNEQARAm6kAJ948WBp0elnZvxoHLMXvNfaBZvxsgCdEdAO gO6VPobgKHfqcKpjAQ1II6U= =iNoA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
