Summary of the ppc-meeting on January 15, 2006, 19 UTC.
== 1. 2006.0 release == profile: * currently located in default-linux/ppc/dev/ppc/ppc32/ * small generic ppc profile * G3 and G4 sub-profiles with "desktop"-use-flags and CFLAGS-optimization * new: nptl on all profiles (needed a glibc-fix) We will release: * generic ppc stage1, stage2, stage3 * G3 stage3 * G4 stage3 * minimal InstallCD * universal InstallCD * GRP CD Pylon built testing-stages and a minimal InstallCD. Testers are welcome. If we can get KuroBox and RS/6000 netboot-images working, they will go into experimental first. The 2.6.14-kernel doesn't support current PowerBooks, but the 2.6.15-kernel has some issues with ARCH-settings (powerpc instead of ppc). This isn't covered by several eclasses yet, so that building of external kernel-drivers fails. Instead of waiting for 2.6.16 which will most like resolve this issue, JoseJX will look into changing the eclasses. Furthermore there is a tested genkernel for 2.6.15 and other arches will use that kernel as well. One thing isn't working: splashutils. There are issues with klibc (not stable) and klibc in combination with a 2.6.15-kernel (breaks). An upstream testing-klibc works, but isn't in portage yet. All in all we don't need splashutils and it saves at least 10MB on the InstallCD. == 2. Dev Activity (Who's alive?) == Devs seemed to have vanished and even the operational manager isn't around (which had happened more often in the past -- probably there is a bane on this position). Several devs don't have a lot of interest in Gentoo any more, but as there is nobody who will maintain their distribution of choice, they still do their job without much fun. But instead of searching for new devs, we will first try to find out, who is really active. Therefore hansmi sent out an e-mail to all 21 devs on the list. Who didn't respond within two weeks and gave a short activity report on ppc@ will be taken out of the ppc-herd. == 3. Open Bugs / PPC Bug Day? == Currently we have about 70 open bugs for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some devs went through the list during the last week and shrank to half of its size. But still, there are too many open bugs. Every dev should use the time before the release and go through the open bugs. Furthermore we'll do a ppc-bugday for resolving the harder bugs all together. Estimated time will be next Saturday (January 21), 14 UTC. There are some open bugs for keywording requests, which have been done already. We still need a way to find out, what has been keyworded by the ppc-team and which bugs we can close then. Searching for open bugs while doing a keywording-session isn't acceptable. == 4. Toolchain Updates (GCC 4.1?) == gcc-4.1 works on ppc and there are only few issues. All AltiVec-bugs have been resolved. A kernel could be compiled and is bootable. It seems to be a good idea for creating a testing-/dev-profile with that special toolchain for further testing. More investigation is needed for autovectorization and libfreevec. == 5. Some form of regular status reports == We want to tell ourselves, Gentoo and Users about the activity in the ppc team. But how? There are ideas for blog-posts with a subject [ppc] tagged on Gentoo Planet, or via e-mail on ppc@, or even via CVS-logs. For the time, every dev should send regular status-reports to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and JoseJX will take care for the aggregation, a post on the website and notification to the GWN-crew. Wormo asked for some space in CVS where document-drafts could be placed. As the need and also the format are in question, we'll postpone that request. == 6. Hardware support status == Users asked to release information when new hardware could be supported by Linux. This is usually no special Gentoo topic, but we will add such information with links to FAQ or guides to the status-report or to the website. We won't do a hardware-matrix, as all trials went out too complicated. == 7. 2006.0 Documentation Status == There are only few changes needed: * profile * kernel (probably) * further OldWorld support Some users mentioned in http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-420722.html that our FAQ isn't verbose enough. JoseJX is against including questions which could be answered by google instantly (like "What is Airport?"). The FAQ should be terse. But JoseJX will go through the docs and look if there is something which needs to be explained a bit more. == 8. Open Floor == Most attendees fall to bed. More than three hours are enough. -- Lars Weiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> +49-171-1963258 Gentoo Linux PowerPC : Developer and Release Engineer Gentoo Infrastructure : CVS Administrator Gentoo Foundation : Trustee
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