Alec Warner posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:55:04 -0500:
> I guess the deal here is to not encourage this type of behavior; > intentially breaking ~arch all the time and then making the arch teams > "clean up" so to speak. I don't believe this to be the case here, I > just don't want to see it become commonplace ;) FW an ~arch user's opinion is worth: This is my feeling as well. As Spyderous says, I'm ~arch because I want to help out with bug reporting and the like, so I don't mind the occasional deliberate breakage as long as it remains occasional, and announced in advance where I'm likely too see it (here) as someone following development in ordered to get a headsup on such things. Personally, I'm already on modular-X, having unmasked it and tried it out some weeks ago (and having tried it almost as soon as it was available in the tree, but having it not work so I remasked it for a few weeks to let it stabilize and until I had time to investigate my issues). Still, I've gone thru the posted list, to see what there might apply to me, and am aware of things just in case something breaks that was somehow missed. Similarly with portage's use.default thing. I'm following it and have in fact already tried a rename of the file in my cascading profile, then an emerge -NuD world to see what it changed. In fact, I'm now rsync-excluding use.default, and have gone thru and removed other instances of it in my local tree instance as well, now that they are rsync-excluded. Nothing's going to break for me on that day, as it has already been taken care of. The point being, as a responsible Gentoo user aka Gentoo sysadmin, deliberately running ~arch, I do the due diligence necessary by following this list and getting a headsup on the deliberate stuff well before it hits. Of course, we wouldn't be going thru the whole news GLEP process if everybody did that, but unfortunately... . Still, IMO, if those that don't, particularly those running ~arch, get a bit of breakage now and then, maybe they'll learn to be a bit more careful. Anyway, yes, I say the ground has been prepped, the warning given, it's on ~arch which is by definition testing, so go for it! As long as it remains something that when it happens, is in development for months first, and as long as there are hints here during that time and more dire warnings a week in advance, it's a good thing, not a bad thing, and as Spyderous says, it's what ~arch users are signing up for by going ~arch in the first place. If it breaks a few that didn't understand that, well, they'll know it now! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
