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Ryan Hill wrote:
> 
> So far the only difference between this and doing a query on b.g.o for
> maintainer-wanted is that it's on mailing list.

Which (as a side note), increase the flow of communication between
developers and users, giving an alternative bugzilla.

> 
>> Here it comes the trick or 'trap' ;-)
>>
>> The user _has_ to compromise to take care of those previous commented
>> three points that some of us might be afraid of, besides of giving us a
>> centralized way of keeping informed about new ebuilds.
> 
> _Has_ to?  How do we enforce that?
>

Nobody forces anybody here to do anything. In the same way we (by
ourselves) compromise as developer to cooperate with Gentoo , we also
need the same degree of compromise from the users. That simple. This is
a project for people who wants to cooperate under these requirements.

The users will need to read the guidelines of the project (when posted),
and all these points would be explained as better as possible, so he/she
might know what kind of work they need to do inside the proxy project.

> So basically, the user does all the work in exchange for the ebuild
> being in portage.  Once it's in they disappear off the face of the
> earth.  I still don't see how this is any different than the status quo.
>

Please (re^10e)-read the point 4. (the most important one by the way)

>> This evidently brings some developers responsibilities too, we will need
>> to review, and test the ebuilds. we sometimes will have to check with
>> upstream, and comment on the ebuild, or fixing some details. But it
>> should be a far minimimal effort than the developer taking care of the
>> package(s) by his own, in the better of the cases, he even shouldn't do
>> anything but to test, review and commit, from there on, the ebuild will
>> be under the standard procedures of maintenance (arch testing to
>> stabilize, bug reports to notify problems, etc). The developer should
>> also take care of any internal developer communication if needed.
> 
> Right, just like now.

Not for those packages we fully maintain.

> 
> I don't think it's necessary to formalize it.  If you find a user who
> wants to help then great.  Go ahead.  You're free to define whatever
> relationships that work for you.  It doesn't have to be officially
> stamped and sealed, it's just everyday social interaction.
> 
> --de.
> 

It is organizing more than formalizing. I actually can see it might help
to spread the word about this technique that many of us have been using
for quite a time now. And even if we gain only one more user interested
to help with this, i think it is worthy.

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Luis F. Araujo "araujo at gentoo.org"
Gentoo Linux
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