On 7/30/06, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sunday 30 July 2006 18:07, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Personally I'd expect the council to block the thing permanently.

hard to address any sort of concerns here, so i guess i'll just regurgitate
the council log to you

it's hard for users to get involved in our development process ... i imagine
some consider that a feature, but it leaves a large portion of our community
out in the cold

I do not see why it is considdered hard for users to "get involved".
Users have at least two choices that I can think of right now, and
probably a number that I cannot think of.

1) Users can submit patches/ideas to bugs.g.o at whatever frequency
they desire, contributing to gentoo casually.

2) Users can take the quizzes and become a developer, I do not see why
two quizzes is considdered an insurmountable task, the quizzes are
specifically designed to ensure that people writing ebuilds understand
what ebuilds can contain and what they cannot, I could not imagine a
user wanting to install a package from an ebuild written by someone
that does not know this.


sunrise is attempting to fill that gap via some controversial methods ... in
review, we deemed that the many concerns raised were pretty much addressed
and any more requests for criticism and useful critiques either went
unanswered or people piped up saying that they were happy with the latest
state

i (nor anyone else) cannot say whether this venture will succeed, only time
will prove out the project ... sitting around and clamoring for more openness
while killing every attempt at it gets us nowhere

we take a risk with this project (like every single other project) ... if
sunrise turns out to suck and cause problems, then we kill it, no big deal
-mike



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