On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 09:54 -0400, Michael Crute wrote:
> Sorry to start yet another thread on this but all the others seem to
> have just turned into a shouting match among developers... and sorry
> if this has already been covered.
> 
> It seems that the most logical solution to the Sunrise "problem" is to
> separate it from Gentoo... I know that there are other overlays out
> there... why not simply make the Sunrise people use their own
> infrastructure and support their project outside of Gentoo? 

That has been discussed, it would not be a technical problem.
One reason this should be avoided is control - as soon as sunrise runs
on non-official hardware (like, say ... hmmm ...
sunrise.gentooexperimental.org) gentoo has no control at all over it.

Should sunrise have any problems there's no way of pulling the plug!

That's why I think it has to be an official project, especially with the
amount of devs involved.

> I know of
> a few websites that are far better qualified for space on Gentoo
> infrastructure than Sunrise (gentoo-portage.com, gentoo-wiki.com).
That is a completely different discussion for another day ...

>  If
> Sunrise becomes a wild success then I would take it back to the
> council for re-inclusion into the Gentoo core, if it bombs nobody gets
> hurt and it stops the shouting on the lists.
If it bombs you can't kill it on non-gentoo hardware :-) 

> I think the council should temporarily block the project until it can
> prove that it will stand on its own. Just as we expect developers to
> prove their abilities before they join Gentoo, we should do the same
> thing for projects like this.
That does not solve any of the perceived issues and removes any
influence gentoo has over the sunrise overlay. I don't see how this
fixes any issues, so I'm against it.

Patrick
-- 
Stand still, and let the rest of the universe move

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