On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:26:56 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| > | Seriously? Without an implementation, your spec of what should
| > | happen will have loads of errors?
| > 
| > Yes. It will describe what people think is allowed, rather than what
| > really is.
| 
| If you're writing the spec to match what "people think", why limit
| the # of folks involved? 

You're reading that backwards.

| > b) they're more interested in replacing
| > the ebuild format
| 
| Pure and absolute FUD; recall which project has added incompatible 
| version extensions

Which are optional

| which is dropping running *rm when reinstalling the same ver

We haven't done that in trunk/ for a while now.

| which *still* doesn't actually implement overlay logic, 

Sure we do.

| leading to overlay authors having to copy master files into each 
| overlay branch.

Uh, no.

| Doing it formally, I hereby request access to PMS specifically with 
| the intention of going over it to spot where it differs from long 
| standing portage behaviour.

And as you know all too well, given your behaviour on every previous
discussion we've had related to this, you're not getting it.

| > | a portage dev such as zmedico
| > 
| > We have a Portage dev reviewing it.
| 
| Which, if I may ask? (vague specifics help no one).  Zmedico, 
| indicated above isn't (although perhaps you're just being coy, and he 
| is).  Genone isn't ever around, bit hard for him to be doing it.  
| Stubbs is mia, kito/exg are both MIA afaik (additionally, prefix 
| specific although both have a pretty good understanding of env 
| requirements due to changing it for the prefix experiment- same goes 
| for grobian despite not being an official portage monkey).
| 
| That leaves spanky, and antarus, who you specifically contradict 
| within the email.
| 
| So... which?

Genone.

| > > and Gianelloni for the infrastructure.
| > 
| > And what on earth do infrastructure have to do with a package
| > manager specification?
| 
| Wolf31o2 (chris) is releng moreso; one of the few folks doing 
| non-trivial things with the profiles pretty much, with long term 
| experience doing so.
| 
| In that regard, he's one of a few handful of people who basically 
| could be considered profile experts- further, he's a catalyst monkey, 
| which at least currently, is the stage building method.

Which I know fine well, and which has no relevance to what I said.

| For example, dismissing Chris when he's effectively the "profiles 
| guy".  Granted, can involve him afterwards, but don't much see the 
| point in *not* doing it up front.

Just where did I dismiss Chris?

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