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.Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> No, I'm just the one who isn't yet sufficiently jaded by the whole
> "people who don't know what PMS is jumping in and trying to derail it"
> thing to have given up discussing it in public yet.

Mike Frysinger wrote:
> i consider having a spelled out EAPI=0 spec to be quite valuable and worth
> spending time on and i have to say that i get the feeling that i'm not alone
> on this point

I don't think anybody is trying to derail it and even if some people are, they 
will fail
because there are too many others that care a lot about having some standard.

People are just annoyed that they have to ask for access when it has been made 
to look like only very few/special requests will be
granted. And because it seems like some portage/pkgcore people are denied 
access. I think it would go a long way to preempt this
discussion if the people working on PMS would state that all those people that 
are more or less involved with writing/maintaining
a package manager for gentoo would get access on request. I think it would 
probably also lead to a better spec which is finished
faster.

Marijn
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