Since no flames were started over something technical. Let me see if I
can toss in some gasoline and get the bonfire going.

On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 23:30 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote:
> William L. Thomson Jr. napsal(a):
> > This has sparked the following open bugs, and countless more closed
> > ones :(
> > 
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153496
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160302
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164523
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171871
> > 
> > Probably more open bugs, those are just what I stumbled across while
> > looking for OTHER things :)
> 
> M'kay... about 3 gnome apps have issues w/ gnupg-2.

Question is, is that the root of the problem? If you look into the
situation, you will see it's mostly a problem of gpgme <-> gnupg.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164523
Comment 104
Update:
[1] https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue772
[2] http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-devel/2007-February/023676.html

Should have been solved in gnupg-2.0.4, it may help with progress.

Notice should, and that both links deal with gpgme, NOT SEAHORSE or
anything gnome related. Which gpgme and gnupg have basically the same
upstream. Who has made vague comments about it working for them. Despite
reports from others about problems.T here still is not a 100% solution
from upstream between gpgme <-> gnupg.

>  Seriously, I could
> care less; their problem.

Yes, and because of the word Gnome being included, you are overlooking
the important details that matter. In which it's not a Gnome problem at
all :)

The gnome apps like Seahorse talk to gpgme, not gnupg directly. That's
were the problem lies.

>  Maybe upstream will wake up sometimes,

Yes gnupg/gpgme upstream. Not Gnome or other apps that are downstream
from them.

>  or
> what's the horrible issue with porting those,

Port to what?

>  beyond 'oh we don't care,

That should be you don't care. Users do care, if you notice the
different people commenting on the different bugs.

> use gnupg-1 because the legacy feeling is oh so great'?

It's not just about legacy. gnupg-2 is not a COMPLETE replacement. There
are FEATURES of gnupg-1. Upstream is still developing and supporting
gnupg-1. So how is that legacy?

Not to mention clearly stating gnupg-1 has benefits when used with
gnupg-2. Not to mention server side and embedded uses.

None of those features or benefits has anything to do with Gnome. That's
about choice, and we aren't giving the user one.

So here we are going on close to 6 months with no resolution. Which
includes gnupg-2 not being stabilized. I fail to see how any of this is
positive or progress.

-- 
William L. Thomson Jr.
Gentoo/Java

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