On Wednesday 09 January 2008, Kumba wrote: > Well, I guess it's something that's been needing to be faced for some time > now, as difficult as it is to do. Regardless of the accusations and > counter-accusations flying around in this thread, I'll just go ahead and > state the fact that yes, we are a "slacker arch". > > Why? Because there's just no time anymore these days and no one left > really of the original team. And a lot of that really is my fault. Tuxus > may have laid the first keel of our ship, but I was the one who, so long > ago, made her seaworthy and crewed her. But now, she's largely a ghost > ship -- adrift in the seas, and a hazard to the other ships.
thanks ... you've always been a straight shooter without any bs mixed in.
> 1. It's been suggested that mips drop all stable keywords ('mips') leaving
> unstable keywords as-is ('~mips').
>
> That said, however, I don't think it would be appropriate to commit a patch
> to portage that wipes out all our stable keywords in one go. I think it
> would be more appropriate to phase such a change in gently, because as far
> as I know, no one else has really done this. The other archs typically
> maintain a stable/unstable set of keywords in the tree. So I think this
> should be managed by the profiles. I've been needing to do some profile
> cleanup anyways, so I can probably fiddle with a 2008.0-dev profile set to
> only do ~arch, and then see how that goes.
that certainly sounds reasonable to me. if the stable cant be maintained, let
the common workflow of developers transition it back to ~arch until someone
has the time to keep arch usable. changing profiles.desc accordingly should
be done ahead of time. perhaps a new category for profiles.desc ? "exp" for
such ports ? i could see all *-fbsd ports being moved there. tweak repoman
to be less verbose about dep issues for such profiles and we're set.
> 3. Should Gentoo even continue to support mips?
i see dropping keywords as a very last resort. getting a port *back* into the
tree is a *tremendous* amount of work (i went through it and it was hell),
while keeping ~arch alive is a sliver of effort and generally not a blocker
for package maintainers.
> Do people even *use* mips?
mips certainly sees use on the embedded side. there should be no doubt
whatsoever about its usage.
-mike
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