Alistair Bush schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> i would like to start a discussion about reducing the amount of >> default-enabled USE flags in profiles, especially in inherited basic >> profiles. > > Sounds like a reasonable idea to me, for the base profiles at least.
Sure. If we have a desktop/kde subprofile, noone should complain, if that profile enables kde specific USE flags. On the other hand, if i just want a desktop without kde, i dont want to be forced to either choose a none-desktop profile and enable many USE flags by hand or using the desktop profile and disabling many USE flags by hand. > >> In addition, i see a trend to enabled more more more USE flags (either over >> profiles or via IUSE +flag). Whats the reason for forcing a big load of >> default enabled USE flags on every user including more dependencies, more >> compile time, more wasted disk space and more possible vulnerabilities >> except some users, who complain about a missing feature and are not able >> to think and enable a USE flag for that feature? >> > > ".... who complain about a enabled feature and are not able to think and > disable a USE flag for that feature?" > > What a couple of changes make.... I dont mind, if a flag is really usefull and requested by a big majority of the users. But as Gentoo is about choice, the minority should be able to easily choose something else, e.g. by a less heavyweight profile. If a majority of mplayer users want to be able to play audio files, i dont mind to disable it for myself, if i dont want it. But on the other hand shouldnt a handfull of users be able to dictate the enabled and disabled USE flags for many other users, which might have a different interest. > > It would be nice if we actually documented why they were enabled. Does the > use flag enable significant functionality that would otherwise make the > software > less useful. Documentation is always usefull. One should also check the additional overhead of the USE flag. > > I believe we should be trying to find a nice 'middle of the road' balance. > DE > "related" use flags should be enabled in profiles ( unless of coarse they > package is already DE related e.g if a kde package has a use flag for kde's > sound system, this could be enabled at a package level while a package with a > kde use flag should not default enable it.). I aggree. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer
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