-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 10/07/2011 04:22 μμ, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > On 09-07-2011 14:40, Pacho Ramos wrote: >> El sáb, 09-07-2011 a las 12:20 +0000, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto >> escribió: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA256 >>> >>> On 08-07-2011 17:00, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>>> El vie, 08-07-2011 a las 19:45 +0300, Markos Chandras escribió: >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> Hash: SHA512 >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>>>> Good point but there is a problem. If we process the metadata.xml, >>>>> project pages and bugs before the infrastructure people process his >>>>> account, and the said developer decides to return, then we need to >>>>> process all the previous files again and restore them to the previous >>>>> state. This is why we do not touch them until the developer is fully >>>>> retired by the infrastructure. This is the only way to ensure that he is >>>>> really gone. The only thing you ( as an individual developer ) can do, >>>>> is to report bugs, wait for some time, and if the slacking developer >>>>> does not touch them, go ahead and fix them. We cannot force people to >>>>> use the devaway system or to provide accurate information about their >>>>> status :-/ >>>>> >>>>> - -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 >>>> >>>> At what step is the retirement process irreversible then? For example, >>>> looking at https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=266794#c13 I would >>>> start dropping him from metadata.xml as it's already clear the >>>> retirement has started :-/ Maybe we could add a step that makes the >>>> retirement irreversible (with a concrete date) after retirement team >>>> comments in bug report announcing the process has started. >>> >>> The retirement process evolves with time and with our experience. Markos >>> linked to the last documented process, but after that we've been trying >>> to take care of metadata.xml asap. So as soon as a bug is assigned to >>> infra, we're free to drop people from metadata.xml and reassign bugs. >>> - From that point onwards, if a retirement is stopped, it's the >>> developer's responsibility to add himself back to any packages and to >>> get back to bugs. >>> The processing of herds and teams should still be left to the final step. >>> >>> >>> - -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org >>> Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng > >> OK, thanks for the explanation. > >> I have searched in bugzilla for bugs with "infra-retire" in whiteboard >> and have found, for example: >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28480 > >> I have seen he still have some bugs assigned to him and he is still >> present on metadata.xml. From your last comment, looks like we could >> start to reassign them and drop him from metadata.xml just now. Could I >> do that or should I be a member of retirement team? > > Anyone can help with that, so if you feel like doing it, please go ahead. > Moreover, there are some scripts[1] you can use to speed up the re-assigning process
[1] http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/undertakers/scripts/ - -- Regards, Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJOGam4AAoJEPqDWhW0r/LCYkIP/1xLpdS2fmzXqQaVSBFanYYG lD9/qvhL9NQNuBysVtXPFtq/wDJgON3mPam1r3wdwsTiOhmzKar45m7lWsKf3eCW 7lMfJgx3OWDL+TJPigaR/6MVn7I3D7+FWYuv89pv97jHMQBu6QppT2kfEYeD3pth dsv/O1zoXuEDx8M9Brj4zfaaYLAgAqUeh7Jp8rT6/SW2cC9TQ890jw3u3TdfUUE0 TMkhOF9iQIm/5j/Jq6vo1r8whZ3wyGs6InDKqT1ZNA1mC/JHXGQQ2ZSvakPlCUsY jxV7f3ccA3BeZK7NH1lcZRDp/zsNBA+sQRWWReQ81AUIHHd/6+zJv26d5EOS2Ihu ynyM7XKQZfv6ezxH1ApuwXzOVJ8U2cuu7arrfhhKwr/JjMf+Y6VFV/70X0KrEBoN /cd87lP791tfIoCi/o94P0m48bYYIY4ZmMXsSuOwTd80fbAGtmqKQ0Bx6EqVku31 LtgdlpFSENg0oYQf/aGuvOvnIc0Zmlc9QPjsh7jjLzK7v5USP7p/Q8Q9Ml7pDv50 8BoWZ+wowyjKb0/DpWO3N2pXmUh3oHSUw9fI/T2rzW4v9mQQAItkSgySDbRM5RpI yQVO6bqUWiKoM8DowsEfNoL5/JYKKW5idC6s2bSwN6aq9kH4/NXmn0RWI4aZ3529 0K+lYaADYA5WCY15SSXZ =DIN6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
