On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:12:14 -0400 Michael Mol <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés > <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Michael Mol <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Alec Warner <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > [snip] > >>> Debian uses initramfs-tools... > >> > >> AFAIK, neither genkernel nor dracut were expected to get tied to > >> the Gentoo update process. Has that changed? > > > > The kernel you are running (if you update your machine) is not tied > > to the Gentoo update process. The *source code* gets installed, but > > the kernel source remains unchanged in /usr/src/whatever. It's the > > user responsibility to configure, compile, and install the kernel > > (and then update LILO, grub-legacy or GRUB2). It can be automated > > with (ta-da) genkernel, but it's not "tied to the Gentoo update > > process". > > > > I really don't see that much difference with needing to also update > > the initramfs, if needed. > > What if your DNS resolver in your rescue shell has a vulnerability? > What if wget, links or whatever network tools you use during recovery > have a vulnerability? What if whatever tools you have in rootfs have a vulnerability and they are statically linked so that we don't have to move half of the system into rootfs? > > Because, besides, if your /usr is not in a different partition, you > > don't even *need* an initramfs. In that case not using an initramfs > > is supported by all upstreams. > > And what of /var? /opt? The problem with the /usr merge upstream is > that someone didn't think things through when they pushed it, and the > same reasoning used to justify it easily justifies changing the way > /var and /opt are treated. What with them? /var has a special place of its own, and I don't see why it is brought here. /opt is a defined prefix. Like /usr is. Moving anything into or out of it is a completely separate topic. -- Best regards, Michał Górny
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