On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 10:42 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: > On 08/07/2012 09:00 PM, Olivier Crête wrote: > > I expect that in the not so long term, systemd will become an essential > > user-space component of desktop Linux, just like crond, syslog, dbus, > > udev or glibc. Sharing that code just makes sense, that allows > > As in completely optional and easily replaceable? That would be a nice > improvement over the current "use it or die" attitude.
Sure, you can use bionic and use a shell script as your PID 1. But no one would do that as part of a desktop/server computer. > Repeat after me: having your first process require anything more than > libc is stupid and dangerous. It's lucky that systemd only requires libc, libc-like libraries (libselinux, libcap, libaudit, librt, etc) and it's own libraries (ie, maintained by the systemd team) then? > Most ideas behind systemd are interesting, their current implementation > is sometimes completely wrong and given the experience with pulseaudio > we all know that they won't change even if you provide code for it. This is bullshit, if you have good reasoned arguments, Lennart is a very reasonable guy, but if you just say "your ideas are shit, you code is terrible", then yes, he'll just ignore you. -- Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org Gentoo Developer
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