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On 10/22/2012 02:29 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> On 22/10/12 03:52, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>> Jauhien Piatlicki schrieb:
>>> Both firefox and thunderbird have xul library. Before there was
>>> a separate package xulrunner in the tree, but as Mozilla does
>>> not provide it as a separate package now (as far as I remember)
>>> both firefox and thunderbird use there own libxul.so.
>> 
>> That is not correct. Mozilla does provide xulrunner, released in
>> sync with firefox versions: 
>> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/xulrunner/releases/
>> 
>> It was decided some time ago to remove xulrunner from Gentoo
>> (bug 403415).
> 
> Please note that I've helped with that bug only to get rid of the 
> ***ancient vulnerable*** copies of xulrunner from tree
> 
> This is actually news to me that they ship separate xulrunner
> still.
> 
> The Gentoo mozilla@ members led me to believe it would need to be 
> splitted from Firefox instead -- and that webkit-gtk, webkit-qt, 
> spidermonkey, and npapi-sdk would serve the purpose instead.
> 
> And well, indeed, we managed to convert into those by only
> lastriting *one* ancient application from tree.
> 
> But if there are still new applications out that still want to use
> the actual libxul and co. I have no objections whatsoever in
> reintroducing it with up-to-date version in tree. However, Gentoo
> @mozilla team might disagree.
> 
>> 
>>> It seems this is the same library (Or am I wrong?). So may be
>>> it could be splitted into a separate package? (The reason is
>>> its compilation takes a lot of time on week machines and
>>> compiling it one time would be better than twice). Also as far
>>> as I can see xulrunner is splitted into a separate package in
>>> Debian and at least Iceweasel uses it.
>> 
>> Building firefox, thunderbird or seamonkey against xulrunner is 
>> possible, but not a supported configuration by Mozilla.
> 
> Upstreams know best. Not. Now after hearing all this, it seems the 
> mozilla team went wrong direction -- As in, instead of helping to
> get rid of the old xulrunner from tree, I should have been putting
> my time in adding the updated xulrunner to tree...
> 
> A bit disappointing overall.
> 
> - Samuli
> 
> 
Goes to show you do not understand what you are talking about. The
only way to use libxul from version 5 on would have been to provide a
symlink into firefox/thunderbird/seamonkey as the system gre was
killed. This prevents any clean upgrade path hense the removal.

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