On Thu, 8 Aug 2013 20:57:15 +0300 Alon Bar-Lev <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Rich Freeman <[email protected]> wrote: > > Stability is about the quality of the ebuilds and the user > > experience in general. It is not a statement that all Gentoo > > developers think that the package is useful. Many would say that > > nobody should be using MySQL/MariaDB for production work, but that > > has nothing to do with its stability as a package either. > > This is not entirely correct. > > If from now on, a bug with systemd of new version of a package blocks > that package stabilization, it means that all developers must support > systemd. This is not entirely correct either. Not necessarily, one can opt to mask this combination and stabilize this combination later by removing the mask; it's an implementation detail, but certainly there's no need to imply that they must. Another example is that when you add a package to the tree, you are not required to initially commit both an OpenRC unit and systemd service file; you are suggested to provide them for the convenience of the user, if you don't know systemd service files then you aren't obligated to support them as far as I am aware of. There are people that can help you in supporting them as well as following up on their bugs; and if you wonder, the ebuild change to support a systemd service is trivial. > So having systemd stable is a decision that should be made by > the entire community, and have huge overhead on us all. systemd is already stable, it has not found to be an huge overhead; whether it should have been a decision made by the entire community, I doubt it, it neither seems to show any problematic wide spread problems. > So apart of the politic message, there are implications of maintenance > efforts, stabilization efforts. Agreed; though, they are quite small and shouldn't be a bother. It's worth doing these small implications to provide choice to our users... > I appreciate the discussion at debian, it is not wise to support [I am > adding: at stable] more than one solution for layout. Can you share the link? I'm yet to see good reasoning why it's not wise. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : [email protected] GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D
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