On 08/09/13 15:54, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 14:14:12 > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> napisał(a): >> On 08/09/13 13:38, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>> El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 19:39 +0800, Patrick Lauer escribió: >>>> On 08/09/2013 07:26 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:31:22 +0800 >>>>> Patrick Lauer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You just removed the upgrade path for users. >>>>> The upgrade path is to install systemd or to implement openrc support. >>>>> >>>> Invalid upgrade path. >>>> >>>> "The upgrade path is to install Fedora" is about as reasonable, and also >>>> not acceptable. >>>> >>> The upgrade path is to run systemd, not migrate to fedora. As simply as >>> such >>> >> is systemd useful if not run with PID=1 ? Honest question > Not a honest question but either honest troll, or you're awfully lazy > and just making noise here.
No really, I've tried systemd but only as init, and, since I'm not a gnome user I'm rather ignorant on it's internals. Yet gnome it's an important piece of the opensource ecosystem, and decision taken for gnome sometimes have repercusions also on different DE like kde which is my main interest. > So the answer is: yes, it's quite useful when run with PID!=1. It's > called systemd user instance (something OpenRC totally can't handle) > and it can be used to manage user services. > > But I have no idea how is that relevant since you obviously know that > the problem here requires running systemd as PID 1. I could have argued it was relevant, but again no, I didn't know for sure. My experience with systemd has only been as only init system (PID=1) even when using the (now dead?) overlay from Fabio which tried to make openrc and systemd coexist. Thanks to everyone responded
