21.08.2013 14:36, Tom Wijsman пишет:
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:54:51 +0400
> Sergey Popov <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 21.08.2013 13:13, Tom Wijsman пишет:
>>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:32:35 +0400
>>> Sergey Popov <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 21.08.2013 12:13, Tom Wijsman пишет:
>>>>> Recruiting shows to be a hard task; so, the suggestions I am doing
>>>>> are assuming that that doesn't work out. In which case, I wonder
>>>>> what "by some other ways" you would think of...
>>>>
>>>> Dropping some keywords to unstable on minor arches.
>>>
>>> If we grow (like you said below), then doing less seems like a
>>> decision that we shouldn't take; it is rather about "doing it
>>> different" to use our resources in a better way. Crowd sourcing
>>> users is an option here...
>>
>> What crowd sourcing do you talking about? We have Arch Tester for
>> that. Do you see vast interest in this initiative? I think not(thus,
>> for major arches we have some amount of testers, some of them are
>> became developers lately).
> 
> Yes, it is a large share of users that run ~, they "want to test".

But it seems that they do not want to become Arch testers and bring
things to stable, do not you think?

>> And if you want to move stabilization checks to unqualified users,
>> then it is way to nowhere.
> 
> No, because there would be much more users giving feedback.

Feedback is good. But if it simple "works for me" without tests on
CFLAGS/LDFLAGS respect regression, cross-compile breakage regression or
any other regressions, than it is pointless. I would suggest increase
number of arch testers... Or, i repeat myself(in infinite time),
"recruit more people"

>>> So, recruiting in the terms of "finding recruits" appears to be
>>> hard.
>>
>> But, at my POV, it is only one way that we can improve current
>> situation.
> 
> Sorry, I do not understand (language barrier), do you mean that 1) that
> should be the way to improve it or do you mean that 2) this is just one
> approach and that we should look at different ones?
> 

Yeah, my grammar sucks, i know. So, let's summarize what i mean. To deal
with our current problems with arches we have only two ways:

1) drop some arches to unstable -> lower the burden to arch teams;
2) recruit more arch testers/arch team members;

-- 
Best regards, Sergey Popov
Gentoo developer
Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead
Gentoo Qt project lead
Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead

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