On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Ben de Groot <[email protected]> wrote: > On 14 November 2013 13:13, Michał Górny <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> And how is it possible to discuss anything properly in Gentoo? > > That's because we have no proper leadership. We're an anarchistic > collection of people working at cross-purposes at the best of times. > There is no direction, and very little accountability.
This seems to be an arrangement that everybody likes except when somebody else does something differently than they would prefer... We have a Council, and any issue can always be escalated there. We also have Comrel, which is a better starting point for cases concerning individuals vs policies. However, so far I haven't really seen any real indications of what the concern is here. 32-bit software on amd64 has always been a kludge, and if anything the latest multilib eclass seems to be less of a kludge. Apparently some argue that there is a better solution being worked on, and that's great to hear. What exactly is the problem? If the eclass were breaking things that weren't already broken and having a real impact on ordinary systems I'd consider that a concern. If it is just breaking things that never worked before then I'd just call it an experimental feature. The problem with having top-down leadership in a volunteer-based organization is that it tends to drive away anybody who doesn't agree with the leader. If a supreme leader said "mgorny has the right solution to multilib - everybody is going to work to implement it" that would probably cause more harm than good. Everybody wants a supreme leader until the leader backs something they oppose. Rich
