On 01/15/2014 10:57 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 15:33:28 +0400 > Sergey Popov <[email protected]> wrote: > >> 15.01.2014 06:42, Tom Wijsman пишет: >>> And for that occasional mis-guess, *boohoo*, the user can just file >>> a bug; which ironically even happens occasionally for stable >>> packages. >> >> If we blindly approves increasing of such mis-guesses, then our QA >> level in arch teams will down below the apropriate level IMO. And >> this is not good first of all for our stable users. > > What I'm saying is that even on arch team stabilized ebuilds bugs > getting filed happens as well; so, it happening for a maintainer > stabilized ebuild wouldn't be so problematic from that perspective. > > But, indeed, it depends on which arch team procedure efforts the > maintainer actually applies; on an own arch it is quite possible for > the maintainer to be near the QA level of the arch team, whereas not > having access to a certain architecture can indeed become problematic. > > So, for the arches the maintainers do have, it depends on what the > maintainers do as much as what the arch teams do; and to be realistic > arch teams might not always do everything as intended, especially under > time pressure. In my opinion, a maintainer would even spend more time. > > As for arches the maintainer does not have, the available machines > might be usable; though the doubt is whether they have enough power. > > Most of this discussion is hypothetical assuming stabilization stays > (or continues to grow to be more) problematic; who knows we might get > to see the opposite effect that this thread yields some new arch team > members, which could make what we've discussed here not necessary in the > short term run. It is clear everyone wants to hold on to the arch teams. > I would like to see the ability for devs to become arch testers for the packages they own on the architectures they have access to. The hard part is enforcing the arch testing guidelines, so maybe this can be considered 'arch tester jr.'.
-- -- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)
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