On Sat, 27 Sep 2014, Tom Wijsman wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 13:22:45 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 12:47:14 +0200
Luca Barbato <lu_z...@gentoo.org> wrote:
Because I'd expect a stage3 to be posix compliant

I agree. It's time to replace nano with Vim.

Vim is not fully POSIX compliant; you may find it claim "mostly" in its
documentation, but that's where it stays at and thus doesn't suffice...

While we're at it, we must make everyone use a POSIX IDE with a ribbon!

Jokes aside, this sub discussion is pointless; if we want results, a
moderated mailing list as suggested in a reply won't cut it!

It seems like everyone needs to "chill" a bit. Ciaran wasn't trolling, he was making a point. I'm sure everyone around here understood his point.
There were no attacks and no "foul language", so can we move forward?

What is really needed here is a vote by the Council on whether to add bc
back to the stage3. If the people do insist, another vote regarding
adding or changing an editor to stage3 could be done as well.

No, there isn't a need for a Council vote here. This is something up to Releng (in respect to what is in the stages) and to everyone in respect to what is part of the system set. Further, to me, this is a case where if anyone tries to side-step Releng and go over it with a Council decision, than the council members should be ready to start doing Releng work.

I've stopped following this mailing list regularly quite sometime ago. To see this thread is still going on and no one bothered to cc releng, to me shows a lack of respect for the people actually doing releases around here, as well as a real lack of interest in getting this done as you can discuss this all you want, but in the end, it's releng that works on this.

Regards,

Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Gentoo Developer
(Releng Lead)

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