On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 04:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Duncan wrote: > Andrew Savchenko posted on Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:36:13 +0300 as excerpted: > > > On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 18:35:41 +0600 Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > >> > * linewidth >> 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) > >> > >> Actually, I dislike that too, but the reason is simple: some people > >> still using text-mode terminals. > >> > >> // It would be nice to finally fix that, but let's be realistic: it > >> looks like it wouldn't be finished in the near 10 years :-/ > > > > It will never be finished, because console-based workflow is the most > > efficient way to work for many people, especially for advanced > > users/devs. > > Well, yes, but vgacon is rather dated, now. More folks are using high > resolution framebuffer console mode all the time, and with monitors > standardizing on 1920x1080 due to HDTV, well... my console mode is 320 > columns x 108 lines, now, and 80 chars... is just scrunched up on the > left quarter of the screen![1] > > Of course there's split-screen too, tho I think many are like me and > simply startx and run terminal windows if they want split-screen, so > haven't bothered configuring it at the frame-buffer console, but again, > even that's 160 width, over 100 width if 3-way-vert-split, and still 80 > width at 4-way-vert-split, which is getting a bit ridiculous. > > So console-based workflow isn't so much of an excuse for 80-char lines, > these days. Of course lines can be /too/ long. There's a reason > newspapers and the like use multi-column printing, after all. But 120 > char isn't too bad, and I expect most would find at least 100 char an > improvement over 80, which really begins to feel like the old 40-char > widths at some point.
You missed my point completely. 80 chars limit comes not from the console width, but from the text readability[1]. It doesn't matter how wide one's physical monitor is. Text of 300 characters width will be barely readable. Of course if a code have large left indents for inner blocks, such code may exceed 80-chars barrier, but without left whitespace it should be within limits. Of course there are various exceptions like comments and so on. But as a rule of thumb too wide lines are not readable because eyes shift during line read is way too large. 60-80 chars limit comes from the science, not from the console width. Actually I suspect that console width was selected that way due to readability issues. [1] http://baymard.com/blog/line-length-readability Best regards, Andrew Savchenko
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