On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:27:50 -0500
waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:09:58AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote
> > On 09 Feb 2016 22:39, Duncan wrote:  

> > > the way we're running udev is strongly
> > > discouraged and generally not supported by upstream, with a
> > > statement that it /will/ break in the future, it's simply a
> > > matter of time.   
> > 
> > start a thread then when that actually happens  
> 
>   The problem with that approach is that all at once the Gentoo forum
> will be hit with questions by a whole bunch of people who will have to
> migrate to either eudev or systemd on a short deadline.

That will happen anyway, assuming upstream is right that standalone
udev will break someday;  changing the default to openrc/eudev or to
systemd would prompt a few people to look at change their existing
systems, but most would just leave things alone and carry on.  

> As the old saying goes, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of
> cure.  I believe that the best way to handle a crisis is to prevent
> it in the first place.  That means getting into a lifeboat before
> standalone udev sinks.

IMO, the lifeboats are already in place.  Never having looked into it
before yesterday, I went to <https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Eudev> and
within a couple of minutes I had switched from udev to eudev, including
rebooting.  (I was lucky enough -- eudev was just a drop-in replacement
for me.)

All that said, ISTM sticking with standalone udev as default when
upstream does not support that seems strange, not that strangeness ever
ruled anything out in Gentoo. ;)




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