On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:27:50 -0500 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:09:58AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote > > On 09 Feb 2016 22:39, Duncan wrote:
> > > the way we're running udev is strongly > > > discouraged and generally not supported by upstream, with a > > > statement that it /will/ break in the future, it's simply a > > > matter of time. > > > > start a thread then when that actually happens > > The problem with that approach is that all at once the Gentoo forum > will be hit with questions by a whole bunch of people who will have to > migrate to either eudev or systemd on a short deadline. That will happen anyway, assuming upstream is right that standalone udev will break someday; changing the default to openrc/eudev or to systemd would prompt a few people to look at change their existing systems, but most would just leave things alone and carry on. > As the old saying goes, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of > cure. I believe that the best way to handle a crisis is to prevent > it in the first place. That means getting into a lifeboat before > standalone udev sinks. IMO, the lifeboats are already in place. Never having looked into it before yesterday, I went to <https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Eudev> and within a couple of minutes I had switched from udev to eudev, including rebooting. (I was lucky enough -- eudev was just a drop-in replacement for me.) All that said, ISTM sticking with standalone udev as default when upstream does not support that seems strange, not that strangeness ever ruled anything out in Gentoo. ;)