On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:09:23 -0500 Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn > <chith...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > This claim was made by upstream, no less. And it refers to > > *running* udev without systemd as opposed to building (which > > upstream already made impossible). > > > > Here is the exact wording: > > "Unless the systemd-haters prepare another > > kdbus userspace until then this will effectively also mean that we > > will not support non-systemd systems with udev anymore starting at > > that point. Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call." > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html > > > > Not sure what about this is FUD. > > > > The fact that it came from Lennart doesn't make it any less FUD. IMHO this makes a good argument for the wait&see (aka keep sys-fs/udev default) position: - May 2014: Lennart writes the world will fall apart and udev will somewhat require systemd with kdbus. - May/June 2015: kdbus is first sent for review/merge for the linux 4.1 merge window (I think). - Feb. 2016: kdbus has been included then removed from fedora kernels, it is being reworked and is not even proposed for the linux 4.5 merge window. I'd say we still have some time to see how things will evolve :) Alexis.