On 31 Mar 2016 21:09, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> On Thursday, March 31, 2016 8:19:52 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On 31 Mar 2016 19:00, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> >> On Thursday, March 31, 2016 6:07:28 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> >>> On 31 Mar 2016 16:05, Alexis Ballier wrote: ...
> >> 
> >> i dont think anybody expects you to post tree-wide conversion patches to 
> >> -dev ml :)
> >> 
> >> but i also dont think it is a good idea to leave the toolchain-funcs 
> >> version around, and if you want to drop it, you'll have to 
> >> fill bugs to let 
> >> ppl know, which is probably more work than adding 8 chars to an inherit 
> >> line that can be automated
> >
> > sure -- backwards compat won't be dropped until we're confident everyone
> > has migrated over
> 
> ... which introduces a mess to track what has been converted and what not 
> while it can be done once and for good

not really.  a simple grep in the tree for the single func being dropped
is fairly trivial.

> >>> ...
> >> not sure if this was phrased as such, but I seem to recall a council 
> >> decision stating that separate /usr should be made easy to users unless 
> >> this causes serious issues; thus, no, I don't think that is 
> >> the behavior we 
> >> want :) ...
> >
> > pretty sure the decision was that it's not required to be supported.
> 
> lemme look it up for you then:
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Council_decisions
> 
> systems with separate /usr should be supported. However, users shouldn't be 
> constrained from using software which doesn't support that. -- 04/2012 
> meeting
> 
> The council has voted in favour of a separate /usr being supported
> (5 yes, 1 no vote).
> 
> >  and
> > regardless of that, i don't see the default behavior of being off as being
> > contra "easy to use".
> 
> but you're right there, it doesn't make it hard to use, just not working 
> out of the box, which is already debatable; however, with eudev being the 
> default I don't think there is anything preventing it atm with a default 
> setup, but i might certainly stand corrected there

"being supported" != "enabled by default".  so no, i still don't see any
requirement in anything you've cited that this be turned on by default.
-mike

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