On 05/20/2016 03:36 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> On 05/19/2016 07:51 AM, Jeroen Roovers wrote:

..

>>
> To make sure I understand what you're getting at, are you saying some
> devs get on board and then request to add keywords to packages that they
> already maintain? If said arches are already supported in Gentoo I see
> little problem with that, especially if they intend on being part of the
> arch testing team for that arch or have access to the hardware.

Can you elaborate on your definition of supported in this case? does it
deviate from stable arches (alpha, amd64, arm, hppa, ia64, ppc, ppc64,
sparc, x86)?

> 
> But if this is a case of developers asking for arch keywords to be added
> for arches that aren't (yet) supported in Gentoo, I agree that we need
> some sort of formal requirements, much like we do for stabilization (30
> days no bugs, etc). Covering it in the devmanual is a great idea.

keywording for a new arch should normally only be done when necessary,
mainly if it is a direct dependency of another package. There is no need
to keywor it for an arch until it has been tested on that arch by some
user / developer ... certainly not because some committing developer
think it is nice to have all arches listed just in case.

It is actually already [covered in the devmanual]; " It's important to
note that alternative arches (like alpha, ia64, s390, sh, sparc, hppa,
ppc*) are mainly undermanned arches, some of them are slow, they have
more basic problems and have a small userbase. Just file bugs for these
architectures when a package is going to be a dependency of a package
already keyworded. "

> 
> But adding keywords, as we know, comes with maintenance burden. New

Indeed, more people should think of this. Adding packages in itself adds
maintenance burdens for other teams and the usefulness should be
considered accordingly before doing so

> arches can't get supported without people active in the community and
> actually using the hardware. If that interest isn't there, why should we
> add the keywords to the main repo? Overlays may be a fine alternative.
> 
> Just my 2ยข. Thanks for bringing this up, it's a topic I didn't know was
> a concern.
> 

References:
[covered in the devmanual]
https://devmanual.gentoo.org/keywording/index.html



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