On 08/07/2016 12:49 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 1:47 PM, james <[email protected]> wrote:
On 08/07/2016 09:47 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:

Sounds great.  What's stopping you?


Why Rich, thanks for the triple compliments; is that a vote that the basic
idea(s) have merit, or sarcasm?


I'm just expressing that the typical blocker is somebody willing to
contribute.  I don't think anybody opposes Java support on Gentoo, or
having a canned installation.  It takes way longer than it should to
get a container running/etc.



I agree with all you have stated, in this entire thread. I have/am working on many pieces of this this thread and many more all ready exist as components, like stage-4 iso for gentoo. They are already in many mirrors. Yes they are very specific, but lack some install guidelines in the handbook; just exactly how to do a stage 4 install. Instructions do exist that are piecemeal or legacy, but not in the handbook, nor the wiki for stage-4 installs. One even struggle what docs to believe on how to construct a stage-4 file for install. If wisdom from gentoo-devs is these stage-4 issues are to be well hidden, at least there should likewise be accurate docs with those stage-4 iso, imho.


I agree about secure VM and containers. I still struggle with that too; hence the posting here. Today is my response to what ails gentoo; github
is such a minor, miniscule issue on that large question, imho.


My thesis:: github is not the blocker for faster and wider uptake of gentoo. An easy install is the largest issue, followed by a way to robustly support/offer java, are about 95% of the blocker issues to gentoo update, imho. So I have suggested a variety of mechanism, for discussion on gentoo update (which would lead to more gentoo devs and contributions) even to the point of in a VM centric, or sister distro, as potentially plausible mechanisms to attract new users (and devs) to gentoo.


hth,
Jaems

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