On 03/01/2017 15:24, Damien LEVAC wrote: > > > On 01/03/2017 09:14 AM, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:05:10 PM EST Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) >>> >>> gro...@gentoo.org wrote: >>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote: >>>>> IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it >>>>> heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT. >>>> I use it on 2 notebooks. It works fine, and is (from my point of >>>> view) the >>>> most convenient tool to control ethernet and wifi connections on a >>>> notebook. Why lastrite it when it works? >>> This is the Gentoo Way™. Having a working software is not a goal. >>> Gentoo focuses on the best bleeding edge experience and therefore >>> highly relies on software packages that are under active development >>> and require active maintenance. The packages in early stages of >>> development are especially interesting since they can supply users >>> and developers with variety of interesting bugs and unpredictable >>> issues. >> Do we have detailed treatise documenting the points and counterpoints >> to "Why >> lastrite it when it works?" It's a question that comes up every month >> or two, >> and the reasons, for and against, are probably mature enough to get >> numbers, >> now. >> >> Reason #3 in favor: "It works for me" may only be valid from a particular >> perspective. Without active maintenance, there may be subtle bugs that >> aren't >> immediately obvious. Bugs that aren't immediately obvious aren't always >> innocuous; sometimes they're insidious background data loss. Other >> times, they >> might be security vulnerabilities no good guy has yet noticed. > ...and sometimes a package just stop being "actively" maintained because > it is feature-complete (as far as the goals of the project were > concerned) and just works.
Certainly not the case here. wicd generates lots of complaints from users and upstream does not exist. Sometimes distro maintainers float a patch, but it is definitely in a problematic situation. > The minimum conditions to lastrite something should be not actively > maintained _and_ with open bugs that either compromise security or > affect normal usage subject to the condition that it is not still used > by users. I do not think at this point in time Gentoo devs have any mean > to know the popularity of different packages, but that would be a must > to take proper decision as far as retiring packages goes. > > -- Just a random Gentoo user. > -- Thomas Kahle http://dev.gentoo.org/~tomka/
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