On 09/29/2017 04:53 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Ulrich Mueller <u...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, Austin English wrote: >> >>> Talking with Whubbs about it, I found that our service script only >>> supports OpenRC, via rc-service. I looked around, and from what I >>> can tell, most distros ship a service tool for all supported init >>> systems. I.e., Debian/Ubuntu: supports sysvinit and systemd via >>> init-system-helpers CentOS/Fedora: provides support for systemd via >>> initscripts OpenSUSE: has a working service binary for systemd >>> (according to #suse) >> >> There is "eselect rc" which could be easily extended to support >> systemd. Patches are welcome. :) >> > > ++ > > Honestly, I could see the argument for having a generic "service" > command because that is what everybody else does, but there is little > point in arguing about the name of the file when nobody has bothered > to write it yet. > > If somebody writes such a tool and it proves useful, we can always > have the discussion about refactoring. > > To minimize list replies I'll tackle one of Duncan's points - he was > debating whether you really need this vs just using systemctl. The > obvious use case is scripts that are intended to support multiple init > systems - it makes far more sense to put the logic to figure out which > one to run in one place than many. If the runit users want to add > their own logic they could. IMO it would be potentially useful, even > if you and I don't personally have much use for it. > > That said, the sorts of people most likely to benefit probably don't > use Gentoo in the first place. > > In any case, arguing over whether it is useful is putting the cart > before the horse. It doesn't matter if it is useful if nobody bothers > to build it. If nobody has that much of an itch to scratch then how > useful could it be? >
Great points. It'll be much easier to decide on something when/if there is something concrete to work with. There isn't much stopping a package from making it into Gentoo. If there is demand, it'll be written. -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer, Trustee, Treasurer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6
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