Hanno's previous message about the LXDE project made me think other desktop projects that are facing a bad state in Gentoo: Cinnamon and Mate. They are both outdated and last I tried, Cinnamon didn't even build for me (bug open for a ~year now).
https://repology.org/maintainer/cinnamon%40gentoo.org outdated: 86.7 % https://repology.org/maintainer/mate%40gentoo.org outdated: 97.4 % Mate doesn't seem to be that much behind. Gentoo has 1.22 and latest release is 1.24. 1.22 was released 2019-03-18, and 1.24 last month. Many of the packages are outdated in a sense that these packages have minor releases, which haven't been packaged in Gentoo. Ie 1.22.3. There was a 1.23 release in-between, but looks like not many distros packaged that either. (Might be some full-development version?) Cinnamon on the other hand is _horribly_ outdated. Gentoo has 4.0 while latest release is 4.4. And as noted, I couldn't even build it while trying. 4.0.3 was released in Nov 2018, while the latest 4.4.8 Jan 2020. The have been _numerous_ releases in between. Should some general consensus be agreed on whether to keep them or remove them? I feel like we are lying to any new users installing Gentoo; When they setup their system and boot into installed DE, they immediately have to resort to some overlay to update it. While they should get it from the overlay in the first place. Saying, IF they even manage to build it (Cinnamon). This came up and was discussed in the Gentoo forums. There could be more issues these non-maintained big projects cause, like enabling elogind distrowide. cinna...@gentoo.org has been assigned to 27 open bugs, m...@gentoo.org to 33. This message also works as a call-to-arms with these projects. Even if people decide to rather keep them in ::gentoo, help and some action is needed.
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