On 9/12/23 3:05 PM, orbea wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 14:51:34 -0400
Matt Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
Conspiracy alert!
It's been more than 2 years since
https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-08-24-eudev-retirement.html
People have had plenty of time. More chances than were fair have been
given. Nothing has changed, except eudev has further diverged from
upstream udev.
Unfortunately this flew under the radar for a lot of people, when I
asked Sam about this on irc a while ago I was informed (As I
understood) that eudev was still going to be an option into the future
and as the ebuild was still getting updates I never considered this is
how the core Gentoo devs felt.
It sounds to me like the last-rite system has worked and achieved the
desired goal then. It is no longer flying under the radar, and for
people who use eudev and wish to see it be a supported option, a fire
has been lit under them to get involved.
Do keep in mind that based on commit history the only person that cares
about eudev at all for years now is Sam, and that's apparently out of
mere obligation. He is not listed as an eudev project member or package
maintainer, the actual eudev project should likely acknowledge reality
and disband in order to more effectively communicate their intent.
None of this is or ever was sustainable -- do not expect people who
don't use a thing, aren't willing to maintain a thing, but intercede out
of obligation to be an effective maintainer or be willing to do so in
perpetuity.
If I had to take a wild guess, "it is still going to be an option into
the future" actually meant "we aren't ready to treeclean it yet, people
still use it, so we're gonna see how low-effort it is to keep it limping
along without any maintainers but also maybe someone would like to
maintain it".
Sure enough, the total lack of gentoo maintainers for this package meant
that once people who were engaging with ebuild updates *purely* out of a
sense of obligation could no longer justify continuing to do so when the
package wasn't compatible with its reverse dependencies, those people
decided that it was time to step down.
It's great to see people who do care and actually use the software, step
up in their place.
--
Eli Schwartz
