W dniu sob, 03.02.2018 o godzinie 00∶57 -0800, użytkownik Zac Medico
napisał:
> On 02/03/2018 12:26 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > W dniu pią, 02.02.2018 o godzinie 18∶23 -0800, użytkownik Zac Medico
> > napisał:
> > > There's been a lot of pushback involving the --dynamic-deps=n default.
> >
> > Most of it pushed by a single rogue developer.
> >
> > > What we really need is a tool to apply dependency changes in-place,
> > > without the need for a rebuild.
> >
> > So what is the plan for the 'tool'? Who is working on it? How will it
> > magically work?
>
> The same way as --dynamic-deps=y, but persistently.
In that case, it's a horrible idea and in violation of the PMS.
Adding a little persistence to the idea that was horribly wrong
in the first place won't suddenly make it right.
>
> > > Reverts: 2905e1c2c28d ("Disable dynamic-deps by default")
> > > Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/646458
> >
> > This is a horrible idea, and I find it outrageous that you submit it for
> > review in the middle of the night an then merge yourself 40 minutes
> > later, and make into a release.
>
> After two weeks of listing to people complain about useless rebuilds, I
> couldn't take it anymore.
Why didn't you commit the news item? It's not surprise they're
complaining if they don't get the right information, and the next thing
they see is wall of useless text from --changed-deps-report.
>
> > The main result we're going to see now is a lot of users hit with
> > a lot of confusing messages. Yes, you've already made this a mess with
> > that --changed-deps-report but this is only getting worse. Now nobody
> > will be able to figure out what way things are supposed to work,
> > and if they're forced to rebuild everything.
>
> Those who are willing to accept the extra rebuilds will do them, and the
> others will use --dynamic-deps=y until something better comes along.
>
> > I'm pretty sure some developers will use this as an excuse to stop
> > revbumping stuff, and in a few days we're be back at square one.
>
> Maybe the QA team can do the revbumps? If devs get enough bug mail
> involving QA revbumps, maybe they'll eventually cooperate?
Maybe the QA team should just do the work for all the developers?
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Best regards,
Michał Górny
