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On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:02:23 -0400
gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On October 3, 2003 04:24 am, Spider wrote:
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> > On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:34:49 +0000
> >
> > "Senectus -" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > hats basicly saying you can load all kernel modules into the
> > > kernel,
> > > and disable insmod and that tightens up security a crap load??
> >
> > The paper shows how to add modules into a kernel even if it is
> > statical
> > and you have removed insmod.
> 
> what if you disabled "loadable module support" in the kernel?


*sigh*  Could you at least read the link I posted? It is about the
specific case where module-loading is -not- built into the kernel.


There are even -simpler- ways to do it when module-loading is enabled.
All from hijacking an existing module to inserting it without insmod
(oh, I removed insmod so im safe. oh, the user made one in
bash/perl/python/asm . oops.)


Grsec, selinux and a few other "hardening" projects are basically the
only way of solving the "problem" that once an attacker is root, he owns
your machine, including the kernel. 

//Spider

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