Your score on glxgears also would depend on you cpu and motherboard. My 8000+ 
score is on an MSI KT3 Ultra 2, and an AMD 1700Mhz Thoroughbred "B" cpu, with 
512MB pc2700 ram. Scores also vary according to how large the glxgears window 
is, or if it's behind a console screen. My Radeon 9000 Pro cards are also the 
actual "built by ATI" type, with 3.3ns ram, Other Genric "powered by ATI" 
built by other companies generally have slower ram. This means they get the 
chipset from ATI, but then substitute lower quality ram, and may slightly 
alter the design, to save manufacturing costs. There is a performance 
difference, and a lot of people get fooled, and don't get the real thing.

My point about the 2.6 kernels was that it's just easier to get 3d working, 
plus you get all the other advances that 2.4 versions lack. (This of course 
assumes you are comfortable compiling your own kernels).

Robert Crawford



On Monday 27 October 2003 12:04 am, XiangYu Ye wrote:
> Hi, gentooer,
>  My radeon 9000 is  using ATI official driver now. But I got only 1700+
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1024x768 in glxgears test. Is that 2.6.0 testx so powerfull?
> I am using 2.4.20-gentoo-r7.
>
> Reply on Monday 27 October 2003 04:28, Robert Crawford wrote:
> > On Sunday 26 October 2003 2:07 pm, Kwame Opam wrote:
> > > Hello. Well, I got Gentoo running today after a very long weekend. I
> > > only have a few problems now though. Firstly, I need 3d acceleration
> > > for my Radeon 9000, but I have no clue how to get it. After I
> > > configured X, it complained that it can't find the radeon drivers. I
> > > downloaded Xfree-drm and everything, but I'm worried that since it's an
> > > AGP card it still can't properly detect it. Also, I need my printer to
> > > be detected but I don't know how to make my computer see it. Any ideas?
> >
> > Kwame,
> > I have 3 of these cards, and would suggest building a 2.6-0test8-mm1 (or
> > test9) kernel, and compiling the ATI stuff directly into the kernel, like
> > below. Then there's no need to mess with ATI drivers or DRM- it's all
> > already supported. Most comments I've read say the stock ATI 2.6 support
> > is just as good as any of the ATI attempts at Linux drivers. Works great-
> > I get 8000+ FPS @16bit 1024x768 with these cards. Here's a really good
> > way for a basic trial, that I posted on the Gentoo forums..
> >
> > Robert Crawford
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >-- ------ I've been downloading from kernel.org, and getting mm patches
> > for each 2.6 version, with excellent results. Here's my method, for 2.4
> > or 2.6 kernels. I never compile as root in /usr/src anymore. I made a
> > /home/wrc/kernel directory, and untar there, then cd as user to the
> > linux-2.6.0-testx directory, and do a normal:
> >
> >  Optional:apply mm patch (or others I might wish to try)
> >  make mrproper
> >  make xconfig
> >  (optional- after xconfig edit Makefile cflags and console output for
> > 2.6, they have compile output "silent" by default. I'll post my edits if
> > anyone wishes)
> >  make clean
> >  make bzImage
> >  make modules
> >  THEN SU TO ROOT
> >  make modules_install
> >  mount /boot
> >  cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/linux-2.6.0-testx-mmx (I use no
> > System.map, or initrd)
> >  Edit grub with nano -w /boot/grub/grub.conf  (or kde superuser
> > filemanager)
> >
> >  and add your new kernel stanza to grub.conf, then reboot to new kernel.
> >
> >  Works for me every time, with no problems whatsoever. I've had mixed
> > results with genkernel, and any Gentoo kernels, so I've settled on the
> > above "method of choice." I do however, run very lean systems, and others
> > might need support for scsi, drivers, etc that I don't use. But for the
> > basics, this works very well.
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >-- ------ HERE'S MY GRAPHICS .CONFIG SECTION- Only change to your
> > motherboard, if not a VIA chipset:
> >
> > CONFIG_AGP=y
> > # CONFIG_AGP_ALI is not set
> > # CONFIG_AGP_ATI is not set
> > # CONFIG_AGP_AMD is not set
> > # CONFIG_AGP_AMD64 is not set
> > # CONFIG_AGP_INTEL is not set
> > # CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA is not set
> > # CONFIG_AGP_SIS is not set
> > # CONFIG_AGP_SWORKS is not set
> > CONFIG_AGP_VIA=y
> > CONFIG_DRM=y
> > # CONFIG_DRM_TDFX is not set
> > # CONFIG_DRM_GAMMA is not set
> > # CONFIG_DRM_R128 is not set
> > CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=y
> > # CONFIG_DRM_MGA is not set
> > # CONFIG_DRM_SIS is not set
> > # CONFIG_MWAVE is not set
> > # CONFIG_RAW_DRIVER is not set
> > # CONFIG_HANGCHECK_TIMER is not set
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > (The FB stuff is Optional- not fully developed yet- can cause problems)
> > CONFIG_FB=y
> > # CONFIG_FB_CYBER2000 is not set
> > # CONFIG_FB_IMSTT is not set
> > # CONFIG_FB_VGA16 is not set
> > CONFIG_FB_VESA=y
> > # CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT is not set
> > # CONFIG_FB_HGA is not set
> > # CONFIG_FB_RIVA is not set
> > # CONFIG_FB_MATROX is not set
> > CONFIG_FB_RADEON=y
> > # CONFIG_FB_ATY128 is not set
> > # CONFIG_FB_ATY is not set
> > # CONFIG_FB_SIS is not set
> > # CONFIG_FB_NEOMAGIC is not set
> > # CONFIG_FB_3DFX is not set
> > # CONFIG_FB_VOODOO1 is not set
> > # CONFIG_FB_TRIDENT is not set
> > # CONFIG_FB_VIRTUAL is not set
> >
> > #
> > # Console display driver support
> > #
> > CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
> > # CONFIG_MDA_CONSOLE is not set
> > CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
> > # CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE is not set
> >
> > #
> > # Logo configuration
> > #
> > CONFIG_LOGO=y
> > # CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_MONO is not set
> > # CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_VGA16 is not set
> > CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_CLUT224=y
> >
> >
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