First off, I'll agree that the management structure document itself is rather 
buried.  I found it (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/management-structure.xml) 
because I knew it was assigned a GLEP (http://glep.gentoo.org), but that 
wouldn't be real obvious to someone new to the project.

That said Sergey, I'm confused because I'm still not sure what you want out of 
this distro.

What are your reasons for looking for an alternative to Debian?

I think its important to judge any project on what they present themselves to 
stand for.  Lets compare.

"Debian was begun in August 1993 by Ian Murdock, as a new distribution which 
would be made openly, in the spirit of Linux and GNU. Debian was meant to be 
carefully and conscientiously put together, and to be maintained and 
supported with similar care."
        -- http://www.debian.org/intro/about

"We produce Gentoo Linux, a special flavor of Linux that can be automatically 
optimized and customized for just about any application or need. Extreme 
performance, configurability and a top-notch user and developer community are 
all hallmarks of the Gentoo experience. "
        -- http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml

"The Gentoo philosophy, in a paragraph, is this. Every user has work they need 
to do. The goal of Gentoo is to design tools and systems that allow a user to 
do their work pleasantly and efficiently as possible, as they see fit."
        -- http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/philosophy.xml

On Wednesday 19 November 2003 04:58 pm, Sergey V. Spiridonov wrote:
> A lot of users tend to ignore GNU philosophy and interpret _free_
> software as in "free beer", not as in freedom.

The philosophy link on the website makes it quite clear that Gentoo is about 
"getting things done".  It calls for neither the crushing of the prolitariat 
nor a strict mindless adherance to the word of God Emperor Richard M 
Stallman.  It states (in italics even): "The most fundamental issue is 
designing a technology that allows us and others to do what they want to do, 
without restriction."  That sounds like the definition of "free as in 
freedom" to me.

To me, Gentoo is about giving you the tools to build it your way.  Gentoo is 
about getting work done, the way you like getting it done.

The social contract says "Gentoo Linux is and will remain Free Software".  
That may be "free as in beer" but that was put there as a reassurance that 
there is not an intention to cut and run.  But even more important than the 
social contract is the fact that all the code is GPL'd.  If Daniel wants to 
go commercial, fine.  There will be a fork and we'll continue on.

The management structure for Debian has a "carefully organized structure".  
Both Gentoo's management structure and tools have evolved organically as they 
have needed to.  In fact the whole Gentoo portage system is a more organic 
approach.  New ebuilds are introduced into the system when someone needs a 
package, and die when no one cares.  There are no formal releases, just an 
ever changing, improving system.  The users and developers are used to this.  
Users don't know (or care) what the procedures are to change the social 
contract is because they haven't had to worry about it!

If the "centrally planned" way is really important to you, stick with Debian.  
But if you're willing to help evolve Gentoo, download the ISOs and give it a 
try.  If it works for you, great!  Welcome aboard!  Please remember however 
that Gentoo is a project, not a movement.

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Ben Maas - Technology Architect
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