On Tuesday 09 December 2003 01:14, Black Hand wrote: > AMD Duron 900 Mhz, 512MB RAM, 20GB HD (10GB are going to try Gentoo if i > like to do) i have in my hoem network an AthlonXP 2400+ machine with 512MB > DDR RAM with WinXP installed (brother machine) and i like to try and test if > i can use distcc with cygwin (i don't have any experience with cywin, the > redhat name scare me) > > i have a live CD with stage1 tarball. > > my target: a GNU/Linux installation with Gnome2.4, OpenOffice, Mozilla > Firebird/Thunderbird, multimedia (stupid word, invented for the ppl that > never see an Amiga in the 80s) tools like xine with win32 codecs, developer > environment (Glade, java, and obviously c++), this is my actual Debian > system > > i have the next questions > > - i like to set cygwin in the athlon machine to use this one for build my > system, i only need the base package and the devel package in cygwin? > someone try this really for build a gentoo system?
I have never tried distcc with cygwin but I think it would probably be more trouble than it is worth. distcc is not recommended with different gcc versions and cygwin almost definately uses an older version than (one of the ones) gentoo does. > i can set the cygwin box > to be used from the beginning, this is, from buidling the stage1 tarball? If you do plan on trying it, distcc from stage1 is possible but you really need how gentoo works. The easiest time to set up distcc is just before emerging system. > - exist precompiled binaries for gnome2.4 and openoffice? and if i use > Precompiled binaries can i recompile the same versions, for example i > install precompiled binaries for gnome and openoffice, and after i reinstall > the same packages, now from sources, is this posible with gentoo? is > transparent or i need to manually remove the installed packages and install > the sources? i like if you can give some examples. Unofficial binaries exist for almost all packages. One of the devs, spider, has set up a package repository but I'm not sure of the address. Officially, gentoo has a precompiled binary for openoffice. To install a package from source after installing it's corresponding (official) binary package, you will have to unmerge it. Precompiled packages are more of a hack in the present Gentoo. To illustrate what I mean, openoffice has the package name app-office/openoffice and a binary package name of app-office/openoffice-bin. These "two" pieces of software have been marked as conflicting. Any package can be installed from precompiled binaries, which I'll explain next. > - example: i install mozilla from the sources, after i remove this one from > my system. some time again i like to install again mozilla (same version, > not new one) i need to download again the sources and recompile? how i can > made a binary package (local in my sytem) that i can use for reinstall > mozilla instead of download and build again? When emerging a package from source, you can use the -b option to build a binary package at the same time. You can also set an option in /etc/make.conf that will always build a binary package. In your example, if you didn't explicitly make a binary package for mozilla the first time you would need to compile from sources again. The sources will be kept on your machine until you delete them, though. > i have for example almost 1 GB of donwloaded .deb packages that permit to me > a faster install/reinstall of several things in my debian system for test > and try. if i have a binary cache or a source cache is this organized in one > place? Sources are kept in /usr/portage/distfiles and precompiled packages are kept in /usr/portage/packages. These are both configurable. > - i can use another system apart from devfs? this one is going to be > deprecated in the future and i like to know if this is contemplated now for > the gentoo ppl. devfs has been depracted in favor of udev, but udev is not ready for production yet. When it is you can be sure that Gentoo will be one of the first to support it. > - some gentoo user and ex-amigan that is using uae? how is going? Never had an Amiga. Had a C-64 and Atari 1040ST - had a Atari 2600 as well but that doesn't count. The C-64 was fun; it gave me the opportunity to learn how to do integer division using only binary addition. ;-) > - i have a strange problem with gxine in debian. some times fail (segment > fault) when i try to put gxine in full screen mode. i reinstall gxine in > debian with apt-build (from sources, optimized) and the problem remains. > someone have the same problem with gentoo? I haven't used gxine and so haven't had that problem. You will probably find that you get pretty good support here for tracking the problem down, though. > - aprox how many time do you estimate that i am going to invest to build my > system? if the time is going to be some weeks, i need to know to plan my > time from now to christmas/new year/next year :) Given the machine and software you listed above, I can't image it would take more than two weeks. If I were you, I'd swap hard drives with your brother's machine and have it done in four or five days, though. ;-) > i wait that i can have a good experience with gentoo. from the Amiga world i > learn to be exigent with my system, know where/how/why the things are > installed/configured in my machine, i think that "be amigan" is have a > computer live philosophy that i like to maintain know like a GNU user, and > maybe like a gentoo user too :) Gentoo is slowly moving away from forcing its users to know the where/how/why, but it's still very easy to find out and to configure them all. Essentially, all the things that apt-get does portage does too - the only differences are reverse dependencies (which will come to portage very soon) and USE flags (which automate the configure options during compilation and somewhat unique to portage). Really, the only way to know for sure if Gentoo is for you is to try it on. Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
